Find the Slope of the Secant Line PQ for x-values .5 to 1.001

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The discussion revolves around finding the slope of the secant line between two points on the curve defined by the equation y = 46x² + 5, specifically between point P(1, 51) and various points Q determined by different x-values ranging from 0.5 to 1.001.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the slope of the secant line using the formula for slope, questioning the origin of certain values used in the calculations. There is also a suggestion to rearrange the order of x-values for evaluation.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, noting potential errors and encouraging a re-evaluation of the values used. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and calculations related to the secant line, with no clear consensus yet on the correct approach.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the type of assistance provided. There is also a noted confusion regarding the specific points used in the slope calculations, particularly the misidentification of point P's coordinates.

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The point P(1,51) lies on the curve y=46 x2+5.

(a) If Q is the point (x,46 x2+5), use your calculator to find the slope of the secant line PQ (correct to six decimal places) for the following values of x.

.5, .9, .99, .999, 1.5, 1.1, 1.01, 1.001

I plugged all of the values of x into point Q, getting values of
(.5, 16.5)
(.9, 42.26)
(.99, 50.0846)
(.999, 50.908046)
(1.5, 108.5)
(1.1, 60.66)
(1.01, 51.9246)
(1.001, 51.092046)

I then did (13- y)/(1-x) for each of the points getting:
690
87.5
91.54
91.959
115
96.6
92.46
92.046

Somewhere I have gone wrong
Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks
 
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Sorry, but what is the secant line?
 
Okay, I agree with your points. It may be worth looking at them in a different order:
.9, .99, .999, 1.001, 1.01, 1.1, 1.5 But that really doesn't matter in this problem.

Now, I'm wondering - for the slope of the secant line, you would probably be using the slope formula which is change in y over change in x. My question is, where on Earth did you get the point (1,13) to plug into that formula?? Did you get the (13-y)/(1-x) from another example? If so, in that example, (1,13) was a point specific to that particular example.

edit: You listed the point on the curve that eventually you're going to be wondering what the slope of the tangent is at that point. That point is (1,51), not (1,13)

edit edit: as I ran through your numbers, most actually appeared to be correct for the slope. Check those again.

I also looked at your problem another way - rather than actually plugging a y value into the slope equation, I plugged in "46x^2 + 5" for the y value (and left x as x) and simplified first. Just coincidentally, it simplified a lot, making the problem easier to calculate slopes.
 
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Actually, only the first couple answers have mistakes; one might be a typo. The first slope you have: 690, is off by a factor of 10.
 
The "secant" is a line that crosses the curve in two different places. If a secant crosses the line in (.5, 16.5) and (.9, 42.26) then its slope is (42.26- 16.5)/(.9- .4) = 51.52. HOW exactly did you get 690?

And, by the way, you say you are using (13- y)/(1- x), but told us that P was the point (1, 51), not (1, 13)!
 
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