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If you have the ratio that's all you need.Helly123 said:Yes.. so. For this kind of quiz (in case i bump into one again) i don't need m or k. Right?
If you have the ratio that's all you need.Helly123 said:Yes.. so. For this kind of quiz (in case i bump into one again) i don't need m or k. Right?
Ok thanks. :)haruspex said:If you have the ratio that's all you need.
Even the ratio ##m/k## is not needed. All you need is the displacement of the springs to the new equilibrium position under the load and the acceleration of gravity. See post #22.haruspex said:If you have the ratio that's all you need.
Well, you do need m/k to use the equation for the period, but in this case m/k can be found from d/g.kuruman said:Even the ratio ##m/k## is not needed. All you need is the displacement of the springs to the new equilibrium position under the load and the acceleration of gravity. See post #22.
Yes, strictly in the context of the question. To the untrained eye, the equation ##T=2\pi\sqrt{d/g}## may seem to imply that when the oscillator is taken to the Moon, the period will decrease, just like the period of a pendulum.haruspex said:It depends whether the question of what you need is purely in the context of questions like this one or more general.
Yes, good point. I find quite a lot of missteps in threads on this forum come from applying a memorised equation out of its rather narrow context. As a student, I had the advantage of not being able to remember reams of equations, so relied on the most fundamental ones.kuruman said:Yes, strictly in the context of the question. To the untrained eye, the equation ##T=2\pi\sqrt{d/g}## may seem to imply that when the oscillator is taken to the Moon, the period will decrease, just like the period of a pendulum.
it's weird.. why there's g on periode and not depend on g..haruspex said:Yes, good point. I find quite a lot of missteps in threads on this forum come from applying a memorised equation out of its rather narrow context. As a student, I had the advantage of not being able to remember reams of equations, so relied on the most fundamental ones.
haha.. Socrates ;)kuruman said:Because when ##g## decreases by some factor, ##d = mg/k## decreases by the same factor the ratio ##d/g## remains the same because it's equal to the ratio ##m/k## that remains the same.