Find V-I characteristic for this circuit with ideal diode

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a circuit with an ideal diode, which behaves as an open circuit when the voltage is less than or equal to zero and as a short circuit when the voltage is greater than or equal to zero. The user derives equations for current flow using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) for two scenarios: when the input voltage exceeds a threshold (e2) and when it does not. They express concerns about the correctness of their calculations and whether they have accurately identified the input and transfer characteristics, given the two cases analyzed. The user also notes that the derived expression for current does not align with Ohm's law, indicating a potential error in their analysis. The conversation highlights the complexities of circuit analysis involving ideal diodes and the need for careful consideration of current relationships.
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Homework Statement
For the circuit below, find the input characteristic, ##i## versus ##v##, and the transfer characteristic ##i_2## versus ##v##. ##I## is fixed and positive.
Relevant Equations
Express your results in graphs, labeling all slopes, intercepts, and coordinates of any break points.
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This circuit has an ideal diode, which is modeled as

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That is, when the potential difference across the diode is ##\leq 0## then we replace the diode with an open circuit and no current flows through it; when the potential difference is ##\geq 0## we replace the diode with a short circuit.

Initially, I drew the following picture

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Suppose ##v>e_2##. Then we have

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KCL on the two top nodes gives us the equations

$$i=i_1+i_3=\frac{v}{R_1}+i_3$$

$$i_3+I=i_2=\frac{v}{R_2}$$

and putting them together we get

$$i=\frac{v}{R_1}+\frac{v}{R_2}-I=v\cdot R_1 || R_2-I$$

In addition,

$$i_2=\frac{v}{R_2}$$

Graphically,

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Next consider the case in which ##v<e_2##. We have

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and so

$$i = i_1=\frac{v}{R_1}$$

$$i_2=I=\frac{e_2}{R_2}$$

$$i_2+i_3=I\implies i_3=0$$

Graphically,

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I am not sure if I solved this problem correctly and there is no solution available in the book I am reading.
 
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The problem asks for THE input characteristic and THE transfer characteristic. In the analysis in the OP, there are two cases and thus a pair of each of these characteristics. Is this correct?

I'd like to add just a few more details of my calculations.

Consider the first case, in which ##v>e_2##.

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I've added the currents ##i_4## and ##i_5##.

First of all, note what ##i_3## is graphically

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It is just ##i_2## shifted down by ##I##.

To compute ##i_4## and ##i_5## we apply KCL again to the bottom node.

$$i_1+i_5=i_4$$

$$i_2+i_4=I$$

$$\implies i_5=I-i_1-i_2=-i\ \ \ \text{and}\ \ \ i_4=I-i_2=-i_3$$

Graphically, putting all the currents together we have

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zenterix said:
Suppose ##v>e_2##. Then we have

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KCL on the two top nodes gives us the equations
When the diode is replaced with a short circuit there is only one node on the top. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node_(circuits).

zenterix said:
$$i=\frac{v}{R_1}+\frac{v}{R_2}-I=v\cdot R_1 || R_2-I$$
The expression ##v\cdot R_1||R_2-I## does not follow Ohm’s law.
 
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