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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid formed by rotating a region enclosed by the curves x-2y=-2 and y=sqrt(x-2)+2 around the line x=-2. Participants are discussing their approaches to set up the integral for volume calculation and are questioning their results.

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the intersection points of the curves and how to express the outer and inner radii for the volume integral. There are discussions about the correct setup of the integral and the simplification of expressions.

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Some participants have provided alternative formulations for the volume integral and pointed out potential errors in calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached regarding the correct volume calculation.

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Participants are also discussing a separate problem involving the rotation of another region defined by different curves, questioning the number of intersection points and the implications for setting up the integral. There is mention of discrepancies in graphical representations of the curves.

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Homework Statement


The region R enclosed by the curves x-2y=-2 and y=sqrt(x-2)+2 is rotated about the line x=-2. Find the volume of the resulting solid.

Homework Equations


[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d A(y) dy$[/tex]
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d\pi ((2 +x_R(y))^2-(2 +x_L(y))^2)dy.$[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


after making y1 = y2
intersection points, (2, 2) and (6, 4).
i need xR and xL, so
xR = 2y-2
xL = y2-4y+6

[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _2^4\pi [(2 +(2y-2))^2-(2+(y^2-4y+6))^2]dy$[/tex]

==>

[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _2^4\pi [4y^2-(y^4 - 8y^3 +32y^2 +64y +64)]dy$[/tex]

==>
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\pi [(-y^5)/5 + 2y^4 -(28y^3)/3 +32y -64y)]$[/tex]42

V = 261.3805088

what's wrong with my calculation?
 
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Slimsta said:

Homework Statement


The region R enclosed by the curves x-2y=-2 and y=sqrt(x-2)+2 is rotated about the line x=-2. Find the volume of the resulting solid.

Homework Equations


[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d A(y) dy$[/tex]
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d\pi ((2 +x_R(y))^2-(2 +x_L(y))^2)dy.$[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


after making y1 = y2
intersection points, (2, 2) and (6, 4).
i need xR and xL, so
xR = 2y-2
xL = y2-4y+6
So adding in the extra 2 units, and renaming the right and left x values,
xR = 2y
xL = (y - 2)2 + 4

It makes the work easier to leave in factored form -- fewer things to multiply and hence go wrong.
Slimsta said:
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _2^4\pi [(2 +(2y-2))^2-(2+(y^2-4y+6))^2]dy$[/tex]
I didn't check, but I think you might have gone astray in the line above.
Try this integral:
[tex]V=\pi \int_2^4 [(2y)^2 - ((y - 2)^2 + 4)^2][/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow V = \pi \int_2^4 [4y^2 - ((y - 2)^4 +8(y - 2)^2 + 16)][/tex]

Don't expand the (y - 2) factors. They're easy enough to integrate without expanding them.

Carrying out the integration, I get 224pi/15.
Slimsta said:
==>

[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _2^4\pi [4y^2-(y^4 - 8y^3 +32y^2 +64y +64)]dy$[/tex]

==>
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\pi [(-y^5)/5 + 2y^4 -(28y^3)/3 +32y -64y)]$[/tex]42

V = 261.3805088

what's wrong with my calculation?
 
oh okay.. i guess i messed up when i opened the brackets lol

what about:
The region R enclosed by the curves x-4 y=-31 and y=sqrt(x-1)+8 is rotated about the line y=7. Use cylindrical shells to find the volume of the resulting solid.

there is only one intersection point.. or do i include the y=7 intersection too?
 
No, there are two intersection points - (1, 8) and (17, 12).
 
Mark44 said:
No, there are two intersection points - (1, 8) and (17, 12).

but its weird because when i graph it with a graphing calc i can't see the graphs intersecting at (1, 8) but anyways...

i used this formula:
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d S(y) dy=\int _b^d 2\pi(y-7)(x_R(y)-x_L(y))dy.$[/tex]

and got
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(y-7)(-31+4y-(y-8)^2 -1)dy.$[/tex]
==> [tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(y-7)(-y^2 +20y-96)dy.$[/tex]
==> [tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(-y^3 +13y^2 -236y+672)dy.$[/tex]
==>[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V= 2\pi[(-y^4)/4 +(13y^3)/3 -(236y^2)/2+672y]$[/tex]128

and my final answer is V=35453.92029
but its wrong.. is there something wrong with my calculation again?
 
Slimsta said:
but its weird because when i graph it with a graphing calc i can't see the graphs intersecting at (1, 8) but anyways...

i used this formula:
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _b^d S(y) dy=\int _b^d 2\pi(y-7)(x_R(y)-x_L(y))dy.$[/tex]

and got
[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(y-7)(-31+4y-(y-8)^2 -1)dy.$[/tex]
==> [tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(y-7)(-y^2 +20y-96)dy.$[/tex]
In the next line I get 27y^2, not 13y^2. Everything else looks good.
Slimsta said:
==> [tex]$\displaystyle \Large V=\int _8^{12} 2\pi(-y^3 +13y^2 -236y+672)dy.$[/tex]
==>[tex]$\displaystyle \Large V= 2\pi[(-y^4)/4 +(13y^3)/3 -(236y^2)/2+672y]$[/tex]128

and my final answer is V=35453.92029
but its wrong.. is there something wrong with my calculation again?
 

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