Finding a matrix for a linear transformation

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The problem involves finding the matrix representation of a linear transformation T: R2-->R2, specifically for the transformation defined by T(x1, x2) = (2x1 - 2x2, -x1 + 3x2) relative to a given basis B' = {(1, 0), (1, 1)}. Participants are exploring the concept of transformation matrices in relation to different bases.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify what it means to find a transformation matrix relative to a specific basis. There is confusion about how the transformation matrix relates to the standard basis and the given basis B'. Some participants are questioning how to express the transformed vectors T(e1) and T(e2) in terms of the basis vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the transformation process and the relationship between the transformation matrix and the basis. Some have suggested specific forms for T(e1) and T(e2), while others are seeking further clarification on the implications of the transformation matrix.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions and relationships between the standard basis and the given basis B', as well as how to express the results of the transformation in the context of the specified basis.

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Homework Statement



Find the matrix A' for T: R2-->R2, where T(x1, x2) = (2x1 - 2x2, -x1 + 3x2), relative to the basis B' {(1, 0), (1, 1)}.

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B' = {(1, 0), (1, 0)} so B'-1 = {(1, -1), (0, 1)}.

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I'm confused at what exactly a transform matrix relative to a given basis is to mean. Does this mean that some vector vB', when multiplied by A', will equal T(v)B'? I have the solution from the book: B-1AB', but if I had to put in English what it looks to me that this does: B'-1 converts vstd to vB', then A is the transform matrix which should take vstd and output T(v)std, then B' will convert vB' to vstd. It therefore look as if this will take vectors in standard bases and output them in standard bases after transforming? That can't be right because the answer given is not the same as the transform. What is the question asking, exactly?
 
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You have to find ##Te_1,Te_2## under the expression of ##e_1,e_2,## where ##\{e_1,e_2\}## is the given basis.
 
tommyxu3 said:
You have to find ##Te_1,Te_2## under the expression of ##e_1,e_2,## where ##\{e_1,e_2\}## is the given basis.

Sure, T(e1), T(e2) is easy: {(2, -1), (0, 2)}
 
You have to express them ##\textbf{under}## ##e_1,e_2.##
That is, you have to get ##Te_1=ae_1+be_2,Te_2=ce_1+de_2,## likewise.
 
I think that if I can get an answer to this then I will be able to figure out what is going on in the answer and explanation in the book:
I'm confused at what exactly a transform matrix relative to a given basis is to mean. Does this mean that some vector vB', when multiplied by A', will equal T(v)B'?
 
Take your problem for example. For the given ordered basis ##e_1,e_2,## If I get ##Te_1=ae_1+be_2,Te_2=ce_1+de_2,## and let the matrix ##A## be $$\begin{pmatrix}
a & c \\
b & d
\end{pmatrix}.$$
Then for any vector ##v=xe_1+ye_2,## if you want to get ##Tv,## besides calculating it directly, you can use the matrix like
$$M
\begin{pmatrix}
x \\
y
\end{pmatrix}
=
\begin{pmatrix}
ax+cy \\
bx+dy
\end{pmatrix}
,$$
which you can notice would be the coefficients of ##Tv,## for ##(ax+cy)e_1+(bx+dy)e_2=x(ae_1+be_2)+y(ce_1+de_2)=xT(e_1)+yT(e_2)=T(xe_1+ye_2)=Tv,## satisfying the rules of linear maps.
 

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