Finding a Substitute Textbook for Advanced Solid State Course

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around finding a suitable substitute textbook for an advanced solid state physics course, specifically addressing the challenges faced with the Marder textbook. Participants are exploring alternatives that present concepts in a clearer and more accessible manner, particularly focusing on topics such as band structure calculation techniques and semiclassical transport theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with Marder's textbook, finding it confusing and challenging, especially the exercises.
  • Some participants suggest alternatives such as Ashley & Mermin and Kittel for foundational concepts.
  • Another participant recommends Ashcroft and Mermin as a more advanced text compared to Kittel.
  • Harrison's "Intro to Solid State Physics" is mentioned for its coverage of the Boltzmann transport equation, noted for being affordable.
  • Kireev's book on semiconductor physics is suggested for its treatment of semiclassical transport theory.
  • One participant mentions "Fundamentals of the Theory of Metals" by A. A. Abrikosov as a good resource for Boltzmann equation transport, but not as an introductory text.
  • Seegers' semiconductor book is noted for its decent coverage of classical transport theory, though it may lack depth on band structure methods.
  • Yu and Cardona's work is mentioned for band structure calculations, but it is not considered beginner-friendly.
  • Callaway's band structure book is referenced as somewhat accessible, though it is older and requires knowledge of group theory.
  • Slater's four-volume series on solids is suggested as a comprehensive resource for band structure calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on suitable textbooks, with no consensus on a single alternative to Marder's textbook. Various recommendations are made, reflecting differing preferences and experiences with the suggested texts.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions may depend on the reader's prior knowledge and familiarity with the subject matter, and the effectiveness of the recommended texts may vary based on individual learning styles.

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i am taking advanced solid state course, and my professor use marder textbook, and his lecture notes are just like complete copy of marder's textbook.

i myself find marder's book very confusing, even things which i already understand are presented in complicated way. i feel i cannot absorb anything from it. especially the exercises, which become tutorial assessments, are very very difficult.

is there a good substitute to marder textbook? a book that explain thing in simpler ways, more gradual, detail, and nearly covering as much as marder.

for example i need chapters on band structure calculation technique in marder (OPW, LCAO, LAPW, LMTO) and transport theory (semiclassical).

i want to see a lot of examples. i am a slow learner.
 
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As far as i know, Ashley & Mermin and Kittel provide (not only) the basics.

Daniel.
 
ASHCROFT and Mermin would be a text to get. It is a more advanced text than Kittel.

If you are also covering semiclassical transport, then get Harrison's Intro to Solid State Physics text. It has, to me, the best coverage of Boltzmann transport equation. Besides, it's a Dover book, so it's cheap!

Zz.
 
Kireev's book on Seminconductor physics (i hope it's translated into English) has the best treatmeant on semiclassical transport theory i know of.

Daniel.
 
For the introductory solid state stuff then I would look at Ashcroft and Mermin.

There is another book which is quite good if you want to know about the Boltzmann equation and semi-classical transport which is "Fundamentals of the theory of metals" by A. A. Abrikosov. I wouldn't recommend it as an introductory book to solid state physics, but for Boltzmann equation transport it's really very good. There isn't a single Russian in our department who doesn't try to steal your copy.

By the way, ZapperZ, what is the plot that you have in your avatar?
 
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jpr0 said:
There is another book which is quite good if you want to know about the Boltzmann equation and semi-classical transport which is "Fundamentals of the theory of metals" by A. A. Abrikosov. I wouldn't recommend it as an introductory book to solid state physics, but for Boltzmann equation transport it's really very good. There isn't a single Russian in our department who doesn't try to steal your copy.

Oooh.. next time I bump into Alex, I will let him know that! He will be thrilled. Unfortunately, he is not in the best of health right now. :(

By the way, ZapperZ, what is the plot that you have in your avatar?

It is a 2D angle-resolved photoemission spectrum on overdoped Bi2212 high-Tc superconductor along the nodal direction of the crytal in momentum space. The horizontal axis is energy, while the vertical axis is the momentum, so you have the E vs k dispersion curve. As of today, it is still the most overdoped Bi2212 that has ever been looked at (Tc~51K) using ARPES. We published this in PRL a few years ago.

Zz.
 
Seegers Semiconductor book is very good to learn from, decent job on classical transport theory. It is a little lacking on the multitude of band structure methods out there, but I have not seen the latest edition.

Yu and Cardona has a couple of chapters on band structure calcs, but it is not for the beginner.

As for a simple intro to band structure calc, I can not remember any text that is easy to read and learn from. Callaway's band structure book isn't too bad, although it is old and I am sure out of print, you need a fair amount of group theory to get into it very far. Check out Slaters' 4-volume series on solids, at the time they were written they would have been the best place to see all the band structure calcuations in one place.
 
ZapperZ said:
Oooh.. next time I bump into Alex, I will let him know that! He will be thrilled. Unfortunately, he is not in the best of health right now. :(



It is a 2D angle-resolved photoemission spectrum on overdoped Bi2212 high-Tc superconductor along the nodal direction of the crytal in momentum space. The horizontal axis is energy, while the vertical axis is the momentum, so you have the E vs k dispersion curve. As of today, it is still the most overdoped Bi2212 that has ever been looked at (Tc~51K) using ARPES. We published this in PRL a few years ago.

Zz.

I didn't realize you were in the same department! I hope he gets well soon.
 
jpr0 said:
I didn't realize you were in the same department! I hope he gets well soon.

I'm not, just at the same facility. I used to be in the same division.

Zz.
 

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