Finding an orthogonal complement without an explicitly defined inner product

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The discussion revolves around finding the orthogonal complement of the subspace P3 in the inner product space P5, given the results of the Gram Schmidt process applied to a specific basis. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without a defined inner product.

Discussion Character

  • Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the necessity of a defined inner product for determining orthogonality. The original poster questions whether the orthogonal complement can be expressed as a linear combination of the orthonormalized vectors obtained from the Gram Schmidt process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of the inner product in defining orthogonality. There is a recognition of the relationship between the orthonormalized vectors and the orthogonal complement, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach to take.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that they have copied the question directly from their homework page, indicating a lack of additional context or definitions that might clarify the inner product in use.

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Homework Statement



P5 is an inner product space with an inner product. We applied the Gram Schmidt process to the basis {1,x,x^2,x^3,x^4} and obtained the following result. {f1,f2,f3,f4,x^4+2}

What is the orthogonal complement of P3 in P5 with respect to this inner product?

Homework Equations



http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/LinAlg/OrthonormalBasis.aspx

has everything on the gram schmidt process

Definition of orthogonal complement:
Suppose that W is a subspace of an inner product space V. We say that a vector u from V is orthogonal to W if it is orthogonal to every vector in W. The set of all vectors that are orthogonal to W is called the orthogonal complement of W.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not really sure. I feel like I need a defined inner product to actually find which vectors are orthogonal. I feel like I need to do something with the x^4+2, but honestly I am entirely lost.
 
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Of course you need to know what the inner product is to say what is orthogonal. They must have told you at some point.
 
Nope, I copied this question straight from my homework page. We are given the result of the Gram Schmidt process, which is a set of orthonormalized vectors. Considering the orthogonal complement is the set of all vectors orthogonal to some subspace W, does that mean my answer is just a linear combination of the given result of the gram schmidt process? They are orthogonal vectors, and the only way I could think to get every orthogonal vector from that information would be to linearly combine them.
 
Ok, maybe I'm beginning to see what the question is. So f1 is a constant term, f2 has the form a+bx, f3 is a quadratic, d+e*x+f*x^2 etc. Does that give you a hint?
 
I think so. Thank you
 

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