Finding angle for specific moment

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Homework Statement


i have question with part B
my working is
13.2 cos tetha (0.86x10^-3)+ 13.2 sin tetha (1.22x10^-3) = 1.95
i gt stucked here. how to proceed? i only have one equation , how to solve two unknown ?

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  • Diagram of a bent lever arm pivoting at point A, with a handle at the lower left and a free end labelled B; dimensions 86 mm horizontal and 122 mm vertical, an angle alpha, and a force arrow at point P.
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  • Printed problem text on a textbook page: a 13.2 N force P applied to a snow blower auger lever, with parts a) moment about A at 30 degrees and b) angle alpha for a 1.95 N m counterclockwise moment, with answers listed.
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You should not assume the moment is 1.95 for part A. From the given information you should be able to see that theta is 30o, which enables you to calculate the moment of P about A for question a.
 
andrevdh said:
You should not assume the moment is 1.95 for part A. From the given information you should be able to see that theta is 30o, which enables you to calculate the moment of P about A for question a.
i have done part A , i just have problem with part b , i did not assume the moment is 1.95 for part A. i gt -1.788N for part a
 
Another way is to use the formula τ = P r sin(θ) where θ is the angle between P and r. You need to make a drawing to figure our what the relationship between θ and α is then.
 
andrevdh said:
Another way is to use the formula τ = P r sin(θ) where θ is the angle between P and r. You need to make a drawing to figure our what the relationship between θ and α is then.
(13.2cos (alpha) ) ( surd(0.086² +0.122² ) )= 1.95 , alpha = 8.23 degree , still wrong !
 
Did you take the square root to obtain r? The angle in the equation is not necessarily alpha. Make a drawing to discover the relationship.
 
andrevdh said:
Did you take the square root to obtain r? The angle in the equation is not necessarily alpha. Make a drawing to discover the relationship.
my working is 13.2 (1-(sin theta)^2) )^(0.5) (0.86x10^-3) + 13.2(sin theta)(122x10^-3) = 1.95 , so i gt the theta = 56.42 , but the ans given is 50.6 degree and 59.1 degree
 
I seem to get 47.5o for α
 
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  • Handwritten diagram of a force P of 13.2 N acting at point B, with position vector r from point A to B, horizontal 86 mm and vertical 122 mm offsets, and angles θ, φ and α marked.
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  • Handwritten working on lined paper: r = 149 mm, τp = 1.95 = 0.149 × 13.2 sin(θ), sin(θ) = 1.95/(0.149 × 13.2), sin(θ) = 0.9915, θ = 82.5°, followed by φ = 35.0° and α = 47.5°.
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werson tan said:
i gt stucked here. how to proceed? i only have one equation , how to solve two unknown ?
You do not have two unknowns. You have two functions, cos and sin, of one unknown.
Do you know the formula for sin(a+b)? Can you see how to apply it in reverse to an expression like ##A\cos(\theta)+B\sin(\theta)##?
 
andrevdh said:
I seem to get 47.5o for α
Unfortunately the arc sin function gets very steep near 1, so it's hard to get enough precision. I get more like 46.6 or 63 degrees.
 
haruspex said:
You do not have two unknowns. You have two functions, cos and sin, of one unknown.
Do you know the formula for sin(a+b)? Can you see how to apply it in reverse to an expression like ##A\cos(\theta)+B\sin(\theta)##?
can i do in this way ?
13.2 (1-(sin alpha)^2) )^(0.5) (0.86x10^-3) + 13.2(sin alpha)(122x10^-3) = 1.95 , so i gt the alpha = 56.42 , but the ans given is 50.6 degree and 59.1 degree
 
werson tan said:
can i do in this way ?
13.2 (1-(sin alpha)^2) )^(0.5) (0.86x10^-3) + 13.2(sin alpha)(122x10^-3) = 1.95 , so i gt the alpha = 56.42 , but the ans given is 50.6 degree and 59.1 degree
All those numbers make it too hard to follow what you are doing. Use symbols and show your working to get that equation.
 
haruspex said:
All those numbers make it too hard to follow what you are doing. Use symbols and show your working to get that equation.
sorry , pls ignore my previous working. i have changed the cos aplha = (1- (sin aplha )^2 )^0.5 , but i still coulnt get the ans , since the sin alpha value is greater than 1
 
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  • Handwritten working on lined paper: 13.2(cos α)(0.86×10⁻³) + 13.2 sin α(122×10⁻³) = 1.95, then cos α replaced by √(1−sin²α), then simplified to 0.011352 − 0.011352 sin α + 13.2 sin α(122×10⁻³) = 1.95, then 1.938648 = 1.621752 sin α, with α = left blank.
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werson tan said:
sorry , pls ignore my previous working. i have changed the cos aplha = (1- (sin aplha )^2 )^0.5 , but i still coulnt get the ans , since the sin alpha value is greater than 1
##\sqrt{1-\sin^2(\alpha)}## is not ##1-\sin(\alpha)##.