Finding B-Field Of Solenoid Slightly Off Axis?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field (B-field) of a solenoid positioned along the z-axis, particularly at slight deviations in the x and y directions. Participants highlight the complexity of this problem, which involves elliptic integrals and Taylor expansion techniques. A key point made is that the magnetic field inside a sufficiently long solenoid is homogeneous, negating the need for expansion in many cases. For finite solenoids, numerical integration techniques are necessary due to field divergence at the ends.

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If you have a solenoid positioned along the z axis...

...how would one find the b-field at slight deviations of x and y?

I have been googling for hours and can't find anything other than the fact that it is very difficult!

Thanks guys!
 
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This is kind of a hard problem that involves elliptic integrals.
Here is paper that shows you how to do it .

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19980227402

Also this might help.
http://www.netdenizen.com/emagnettest/offaxis/?offaxisloop
 
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Interesting read, but extremely complicated! Haha, i was wondering if there was a way to taylor expand around the z axis with infinitely small deviations from the z axis (i.e. x+ε and y+ε)

Any thoughts?
 
jasonpatel said:
Interesting read, but extremely complicated! Haha, i was wondering if there was a way to taylor expand around the z axis with infinitely small deviations from the z axis (i.e. x+ε and y+ε)

Any thoughts?
What exactly do you want to expand?
Note that the magnetic field inside a sufficiently long solenoid is in fact homogeneous and there is no need to expand anything, Also the need for complicated math and numerical integration techniques arises even on axis for a short finite solenoid since the fields at the ends diverge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soleno...ctor_potential_for_finite_continuous_solenoid
 
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Well, let me get a little more specific then.

My actual problem was to find the b-field of a helix coil along the axis of symmetry (z-axis), and I did. The B_x, B_y and B_z components are all a function of z and no other variables.

Then I was asked to find the b-field at very small deviations from the z-axis, x+ε and y+ε. I was also given the advice to do some "Taylor expansion of the field".

But i don't have a clue of how to do that! Any help??
 
Just to make things very clear I have attached a pdf of the integrals I will be computing. So, I am wondering if I should expand ∅ with a taylor expansion because of the assumption that displacements of ∅ will be very small i.e. (∅ + ε) and (∅ - ε)

I am hoping this expansion of ∅ will create a simple integral and the answer of which will give the b-field in terms of (x,y,z) with the assumption that displacements in the (x,y,z) will be very small (x+ε,y+ε,z+ε).

Does this sound reasonable or am I totally off? Also, how many terms in the taylor expansion should I keep?
 

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