Finding Basis & Spanning Set for Matrix: a,b,c,d

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The discussion revolves around finding the spanning set and basis for a 2x2 matrix under the condition that the second column's entries are equal. Participants clarify that the spanning set consists of matrices, not just real numbers, and emphasize the need to define whether the inquiry pertains to a specific matrix or a subspace of matrices. A suggested approach involves expressing the matrix in terms of a linear combination of basis matrices, highlighting the structure of matrices where the second column's entries are equal. The conversation underscores the importance of specifying the context, such as whether the focus is on column space, row space, or null space. For further clarity, consulting an instructor is recommended if confusion persists.
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I'm having trouble finding the spanning set and basis for the matrix;

| a b |
| c d | with condition that b=d

I'm thinking thinking the spanning set would be
A= x
B = y
C = z

Such that x,y,z are all reals, but I can't think of how to find a basis for this, I'm thinking of doing row echolon form but am thinking of how to set parameters.
 
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Hi Offlinedoctor! :smile:
Offlinedoctor said:
I'm thinking thinking the spanning set would be
A= x
B = y
C = z

Such that x,y,z are all reals …

I don't understand this at all. :redface:

The members of the spanning set will all be matrices.

Try again. :smile:
 
Are you looking for a basis for the subspace of all 2x2 matrices such that both entries in the second column are equal ?

Or are you only dealing with a single particular matrix in which case saying "basis for the matrix" would make no sense. Generally when we refer to a basis with regards to a single matrix we are referring to a basis for its column space, row space, or null spaces, of the columns and rows. In the context of linear algebra a basis is a minimal spanning set for a vector space.

Add some more detail to statement of the problem.
 
I think I answered this before- on a different forum (and for a different poster user name).

I suspect you are asking for a subspace of all 2 by 2 matrices of the form
\begin{bmatrix} a & b \\ c & d \end{bmatrix}
such that b= d.

Such a matrix looks like
\begin{bmatrix}a & b \\ c & b \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}a & 0 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}+ \begin{bmatrix}0 & b \\ 0 & b \end{bmatrix}+ \begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ c & 0\end{bmatrix}
= a\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}+ b\begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 \\ 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}+ c\begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}
If that does not answer your question, you need to talk to your instructor.
 
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