Finding current in a resistor circuit

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Connecting a jumper between nodes A and B results in equal voltages, V_A and V_B, which both measure 2.5 V due to the voltage divider effect. The current through the jumper is zero because there is no potential difference once the jumper is in place. Using Kirchhoff's laws confirms that the circuit's symmetry leads to this conclusion. If a resistor were used instead of a jumper, the outcome would differ. The analysis emphasizes the importance of understanding voltage relationships in resistor circuits.
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Homework Statement


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There are several parts, but the part I'm stuck on is: what happens if a jumper is placed from node A to node B? Calculate V_A and V_B, and magnitude and direction of the current through the jumper. The resistor values are R1=R2=2 kohms, R3=R4=1 kohm.

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Kirchhoff's voltage and current laws.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Okay, so I know that connecting a wire between A and B will make V_A=V_B. I was wondering if there's an intuitive way to find the current quickly without using Kirchhoff's loop rules. I tried Kirchhoff's voltage law and it seems that the current is zero. But I'm not sure if I'm right.
 
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mjjaques said:
I tried Kirchhoff's voltage law and it seems that the current is zero. But I'm not sure if I'm right.

Correct. Once you short the middle part, you can combine the upper resistors into their parallel combination value, and the same with the lower ones.

If you used a resistor instead of a shorting wire to connect A to B, the answer might be different. :smile:
 
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mjjaques said:
Okay, so I know that connecting a wire between A and B will make V_A=V_B. I was wondering if there's an intuitive way to find the current quickly without using Kirchhoff's loop rules. I tried Kirchhoff's voltage law and it seems that the current is zero. But I'm not sure if I'm right.
You could take advantage of the symmetry of the situation. Pencil in the given resistor values on the diagram. Can you "see" what the values of V_A and V_B will be (before connecting the jumper betwixt them)? Does that suggest anything about what the jumper current might be once it's connected?
 
So before connecting the jumpers, V_A and V_B are already equal, using the voltage divider equation right? They're both 2.5 V. If they weren't equal before, would there be a current through the jumper?
 
mjjaques said:
So before connecting the jumpers, V_A and V_B are already equal, using the voltage divider equation right? They're both 2.5 V. If they weren't equal before, would there be a current through the jumper?
Right.
 
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