Finding Δx of a box sliding down an inclined plane using Work theory.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done by friction on a box sliding down an inclined plane, utilizing work theory. The box has a mass m, an initial velocity v0, and is subjected to a coefficient of kinetic friction μ on an incline θ. The correct formula for work done by friction is established as Work = (μ)(mgcosθ)x, where x represents the distance traveled down the slope. The participants clarify the relationship between force, distance, and the angle of displacement, leading to a definitive understanding of the work done by friction.

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Homework Statement



A box of mass m with an initial velocity of v0 slides down a plane, inclined at θ with respect to the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction is μ. The box stops after sliding a distance x. How much work is done by friction?


Homework Equations



Work=Force*x*cosθ
W=ΔKE
KE0=(.5)(m)(v02)


The Attempt at a Solution




FF=(μ)(FN)

FNety=FN-Fgy
0=FN-Fgy
FN=Fgy

Fgy=mgcosθ

FFK=(μ)(FN)
FFK=(μ)(mgcosθ)

Work=Force*x*cosθ
Work=(μ)(mgcosθ)*x*cosθ

Something tells me this is not correct... To be honest I'm completely lost on this one =( Thats as close as I could get, and its not one of the answer choices. I'd be really thankful for anyone who could help show me the process of deriving the work done by friction!
 
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From your line here:
Work=(μ)(mgcosθ)*x*cosθ

(μ)(mgcosθ) is the Force of friction.

I take it that xcosθ is supposed to be the distance. The distance should be the length of the hyp of the inclined plane that the block has traveled. Since you have μmgcosθ as the force of friction, it looks to me like your axis is parallel with the top/side of the box. In that case, if down the slope was positive, wouldn't the distance traveled just be x?
 
Oh your saying the second cosθ=1 because the angle between the force and displacement is 0°! So that would give me:

Work = (μ)(mgcosθ)*x*1

Now That seems more reasonable haha!
 
Oh wait >.< My bad, I typed up the wrong title for my question. Yes, your right haha, the distance traveled would be represented by x. Sorry, its late. But you did help me indirectly =P
 
Sorry for the late reply then, glad I could help.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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