Finding electric potential given a cylindrical configuration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the electric potential in the region between two concentric cylinders, with the inner cylinder having radius a and the outer cylinder having radius b. The discussion references relevant equations such as Gauss's law and Coulomb's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using Gauss's Law to find the electric field between the cylinders and explore the relationship between electric field and potential. There are attempts to derive expressions for the electric field and potential, with some questioning the relevance of the outer cylinder and the assumptions made regarding the electric field.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Gauss's Law, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches being taken. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the assumptions about the infinite length of the cylinders and the implications for the electric field. There is also a mention of the need to clarify the Gaussian surface used in the calculations.

carloz
Messages
4
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



You have two concentric cylinders. The inner cylinder has radius a and the external cylinder has radius b. Find the electric potential in the region between the cylinders.

[Hint: The final equation takes the form V(r) = constant1 - constant2 ln(something) ]


Homework Equations



I think:
Gauss's law: \Phi=EA=q/ε
Coulomb's law: E=q/(4πεr^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't know.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Start by finding the electric field E between the two cylinders using Gauss's Law.

How is E related to the potential?
 
Okay

So

EA=q/ε

E=q/(εA)

A=2πrL

dA=2πLdr

dE=q/(ε2πLdr)

E = ∫(limits a and b) q/(ε2πLdr) = q/(ε2πL) ∫(limits a and b) 1/dr

Am I on the right track? If so, how to evaluate ∫(1/dr) ?

Thank you.
 
Do you know the answer to this? I am just learning this material also, so I don't know if I am thinking through it correctly. But the outer shell should be irrelevant as the electric field is going to be zero for any point inside it assuming it is infinitely long, correct? For the electric field at r distance from the center of cylinder with radius a, would its magnitude be λ/(2πεr) (derived with Gauss's law)? If so, you would end up with Δv(r) = v(r) (taking v_i = 0) = λln(a)/(2πε) - λln(r)/(2πε) where a <= r <= b, λ = q/l. But I have no idea if that is correct.
 
carloz said:
Okay

So

EA=q/ε

E=q/(εA)

A=2πrL

dA=2πLdr

dE=q/(ε2πLdr)

E = ∫(limits a and b) q/(ε2πLdr) = q/(ε2πL) ∫(limits a and b) 1/dr

Am I on the right track? If so, how to evaluate ∫(1/dr) ?

Thank you.
No. First off, what's your Gaussian surface and what expression is equal to the amount of charge enclosed in it?
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
64
Views
6K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K