Finding induced emf of solenoid

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The problem involves calculating the induced electromotive force (emf) in a 15-turn coil wound around an 800-turn solenoid, as the current in the solenoid changes over time. The context includes parameters such as the solenoid's dimensions and the rate of change of current.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of relevant equations, including those for magnetic field and induced emf. There are attempts to clarify the correct values for turns and parameters used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and shared their results, while others have questioned the assumptions regarding the number of turns used in the magnetic field calculation. There is acknowledgment of errors in previous attempts, and at least one participant reports successfully arriving at the correct answer after guidance.

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Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the application of the number of turns in the solenoid versus the coil, as well as the implications of using different equations for the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 800-turn solenoid, 18 cm long, has a diameter of 2.9 cm. A 15-turn coil is wound tightly around the center of the solenoid.
If the current in the solenoid increases uniformly from 0 to 3.1 A in 0.28 s, what will be the induced emf in the short coil during this time?


Homework Equations



Emf=delta_flux/delta_t

The Attempt at a Solution


I keep getting the wrong answer. Originally I just plugged in 800 and 15 for the n's, but then I used turns per meter. Both were wrong. I think I may be using the wrong equation. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Hi number14,

number14 said:

Homework Statement


A 800-turn solenoid, 18 cm long, has a diameter of 2.9 cm. A 15-turn coil is wound tightly around the center of the solenoid.
If the current in the solenoid increases uniformly from 0 to 3.1 A in 0.28 s, what will be the induced emf in the short coil during this time?


Homework Equations



Emf=delta_flux/delta_t

The Attempt at a Solution


I keep getting the wrong answer. Originally I just plugged in 800 and 15 for the n's, but then I used turns per meter. Both were wrong. I think I may be using the wrong equation. Any help would be appreciated!

What did you do to get your answers? (what equations did you use, and what numbers did you plug into them)
 
I used B=(mu_0 *N*I)/l delta_flux = B*pi*r^2 and
Emf=-N * delta_flux/delta_t

N=15, I=3.1, l=.18, delta_t=.28 , r=.0145

and I got: 3.6 * 10^-5
 
number14 said:
I used B=(mu_0 *N*I)/l delta_flux = B*pi*r^2 and
Emf=-N * delta_flux/delta_t

N=15, I=3.1, l=.18, delta_t=.28 , r=.0145

and I got: 3.6 * 10^-5

I'm not getting that answer from using those numbers. What are you getting for just the B part by itself?
 
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B=3.3*10^-4
 
Wait, this time i got 1.2*10^-5 . I'm using a calculator that is very finicky.
 
number14 said:
B=3.3*10^-4

I think here you are using N=15; but the B is the magnetic field from the solenoid, which has N=800.
 
thanks so much for the help, i got the right answer finally!
 

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