Finding Invertible Matrices for Canonical Matrix Question

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The discussion revolves around finding invertible matrices Q and P for a given matrix A, with the goal of transforming A into a specific canonical form. The problem involves concepts from linear algebra, particularly related to matrix transformations and basis representation in R3.

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  • The original poster attempts to perform row and column operations on matrix A to derive matrices Q and P. They express uncertainty about their method and seek validation. Other participants question the calculations and provide prompts for self-checking. Additionally, there are inquiries about how to approach the second part of the problem regarding the bases of R3.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the validity of the proposed matrices and their transformations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, but there is a lack of consensus on the second part of the question, as participants are still seeking clarification on how to proceed.

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There is mention of revision rather than homework, which may influence the level of detail and guidance expected in responses. Participants are also questioning the meaning of specific terms related to the mapping of vectors.

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given A={(1,2,1),(2,4,2),(3,6,3)} findr and invertable matrices Q and P such that Q-1AP={(Ir,0),(0,0)} where each zero denotes a matrix of zeros not necessarily the same size

paying special attension to the order of the vectors write down the bases of R3 with respect to which Q-1AP represents the mapping x->Ax

i think i can do the first part getting row opps of r3-3r1 and r2-2r1 and then column opps of c2-2c1 and c3-c1 giving me {(1,0,0),(0,0,0),(0,0,0) and therefore r=1

then i do I3 with the same row opps giving Q-1={(1,0,0),(-2,1,0),(-3,0,1)) giving Q=(Q-1)-1 = {(1,0,0),(1/2,1,0),(1/3,0,1)

same with the column opps on P gives me {1.-2.-1),(0,1,0),(0,0,1)}=P

i believe this is right but have not done it in a while and may be messing up the method so a check wouldn't go a miss, also i don't know how to do the second part of the question, it looks slightly familia with the getting vectors in the right order but i can't remember where to start so help here would be aprichiated thanks. on a side note this is revision not homework so feal free to splurt it all out :P
 
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It's not difficult to check it yourself is it?

If Q-1 and P are as you say then you want to calculate
[tex]Q^{-1}AP= \begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 \\ -2 & 1 & 0 \\ -3 & 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}1 & 2 & 1 \\ 2 & 4 & 2\\ 3 & 6 & 3\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}1 & -2 & -1 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

Is that equal to
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}[/tex]?
 
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ah ye, silly me, what about the second part? no ideas where to start there
 
franky2727 said:
paying special attension to the order of the vectors write down the bases of R3 with respect to which Q-1AP represents the mapping x->Ax

how is this done or even started?
 
what does this " with respect to which Q-1AP represents the mapping x-> Ax mean?
 

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