Finding k for a System with No Unique Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding a value for k in a system of equations such that the system does not yield a unique solution. The equations presented are linear and involve multiple variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to identify conditions under which the system has no unique solution, with one participant attempting to manipulate the equations into row echelon form. Questions arise regarding the role of determinants in determining the uniqueness of solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of determinants, and there is acknowledgment of the need to fully solve the system to identify all possible values for k.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that their current knowledge is limited to row echelon form, and they have not yet covered determinants in their coursework, which may impact their ability to fully analyze the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find a number for k in which the system yields no unique solution.

[tex]x+y+kz = 3[/tex]
[tex]x+ky+z = 2[/tex]
[tex]kx+y+z= 1[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that I need to find a number so that there is no solution and so that there is an infinite number of solutions, I just am not sure how to go about it. I have tried setting it up in row echelon form and here is what I got.

[tex]x+y+kz = 3[/tex]
[tex](k-1)y - (k-1)z = -1[/tex]
[tex]kx+y+z=1[/tex]

So I only changed the middle one and I know that if k = 1 then the system will yield no solutions, so there is one number. But I looked in the back and there was another answer. I don't know how to get the other one, and is that even right so far?
 
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Do you know that if the determinant of the coefficients matrix vanishes, then you can't get a unique solution? That's the general way to do it. If you want to see an example of how the other root creates an inconsistancy, just add all of the equations.
 
I did not know that. All we have been given is the row echelon form. We have had nothing about determinants yet...
 
Then you should actually push through solving the whole system in terms of k and see what values are singular. So far you've only solved it partially and you have only one value.
 
Alright, I kept solving it and it worked. Thanks for the help.
 

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