Finding Limits Using Formal Definition

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The discussion revolves around finding limits using the formal definition, specifically evaluating the limit of the function f(x) = 3 - 2x as x approaches c = 3, with ε = 0.02. Participants are tasked with determining the corresponding δ value.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the limit calculation and express uncertainty about finding δ. They discuss how to express |f(x) - L| in terms of |x - 3| and consider the implications of ε on δ.

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Multiple participants have engaged in deriving δ values and have shared their reasoning. Some have confirmed their calculations align with textbook answers, while others have suggested alternative expressions for clarity. There is no explicit consensus on a single δ value, as different approaches are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the formal definition of limits and are required to ensure δ > 0. There is a focus on the precision of their mathematical expressions and the implications of their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Use formal definition of limits
Find L = lim x→ c f(x). Then find a number δ > 0 such for all x

f(x) = 3 - 2x
c = 3
ε = 0.02

The Attempt at a Solution



limx→3 3 -2x

limx→3 3 - limx→3 2x

3 - 2(3) = -3
L = -3
I am not sure how to find delta
 
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TommG said:

Homework Statement



Use formal definition of limits
Find L = lim x→ c f(x). Then find a number δ > 0 such for all x

f(x) = 3 - 2x
c = 3
ε = 0.02

The Attempt at a Solution



limx→3 3 -2x

limx→3 3 - limx→3 2x

3 - 2(3) = -3
L = -3



I am not sure how to find delta

Ask yourself how close ##x## needs to be to ##3## so that ##|f(x)-L|<\epsilon## or, for your problem, ##|(3-2x) - (-3)|<.02##.
 
|f(x)-L|<ε
when
|3-x|<δ
write
|f(x)-L|
in terms of
|3-x|
 
LCKurtz said:
Ask yourself how close ##x## needs to be to ##3## so that ##|f(x)-L|<\epsilon## or, for your problem, ##|(3-2x) - (-3)|<.02##.

ok so i take

-0.02 < (3-2x)-(-3) < 0.02
-0.02 < 6-2x < 0.02
-6.02 < -2x < -5.98
3.01 > x > -2.99
(-2.99,3.01)

-2.99 - 3 = -5.99
3.01 - 3 = 0.1

so since δ > 0
δ = 0.1

matches answer in book

thank you for your help
 
TommG said:
ok so i take

-0.02 < (3-2x)-(-3) < 0.02
-0.02 < 6-2x < 0.02
Notice that, at this point, you could say
-0.02 < 2(3- x)< 0.02
-0.01< 3- x< 0.01 so that |x- 3|< 0.01

-6.02 < -2x < -5.98
3.01 > x > -2.99
(-2.99,3.01)

-2.99 - 3 = -5.99
3.01 - 3 = 0.1

so since δ > 0
δ = 0.1

matches answer in book

thank you for your help
 
TommG said:
ok so i take

-0.02 < (3-2x)-(-3) < 0.02
-0.02 < 6-2x < 0.02
-6.02 < -2x < -5.98
3.01 > x > -2.99
(-2.99,3.01)

-2.99 - 3 = -5.99
3.01 - 3 = 0.1

so since δ > 0
δ = 0.1

matches answer in book

thank you for your help

That's good. But you could write it much neater:$$
|6-2x| <.02$$ $$
2|3-x| <.02$$ $$
|3-x| <.01$$The steps are reversible so ##\delta=.01##.
 
TommG said:
-2.99 - 3 = -5.99
3.01 - 3 = 0.1

Also note that should be -2.99 - (-3) = .01. And .1 should be .01.
 
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