Finding Maximum and Minimum Values of T for a Rotating Block in an Inverted Cone

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum and minimum values of the period T for a block inside a rotating inverted cone. The equations derived by the user include Tmax=2π√(h tanβ(cosβ−μssinβ)/(g(sinβ+μscosβ))) and Tmin=2π√(h tan(cosβ+μssinβ)/(g(sinβ−μscosβ))). However, the correct solutions from Young and Freedman, 11th edition, are Tmax=2π√(h tanβ(sinβ+μscosβ)/(g(cosβ−μscosβ))) and Tmin=2π√(h tanβ(sinβ−μscosβ)/(g(cosβ+μssinβ))). The discrepancy arises from the placement of angles in the force diagram.

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Homework Statement



A small block with mass m is placed inside an inverted cone that is rotating about a vertical axis such that the time for one revolution of the cone is T. The walls of the cone make an angle β with the vertical. The coefficient of static friction between the block and the cone is \mu_{s}. If the block is to remain at a constant height H above the apex of the cone, what are the maximum and minimum values of T?

Homework Equations



\SigmaF=ma

a_{rad}=\frac{V^{2}}{R}

V=\frac{2\pi R}{T}

f_{s}=\mu_{s}n

R=H tan\beta (From diagram)

The Attempt at a Solution



As far as I can tell, the only problem I'm having is with my diagram. I first placed the x-axis along the side of the cone with the friction force parallel to it, and then moved it clockwise until the weight was parallel to the y-axis. The angles that form can be seen in the attached file, along with my work.

What I come up with is T_{max}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{h tanβ(cosβ-\mu_{s}sinβ)}{g(sinβ+\mu_{s}cosβ)}} and T_{min}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{h tan(cosβ+\mu_{s}sinβ)}{g(sinβ-\mu_{s}cosβ)}}

The answer that the book gives is T_{max}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{h tanβ(sinβ+\mu_{s}cosβ)}{g(cosβ-\mu_{s}cosβ)}} and T_{min}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{h tanβ(sinβ-\mu_{s}cosβ)}{g(cosβ+\mu_{s}sinβ)}}

I can only come up with this solution if I switch the angles around that the normal and friction forces make.

Also, the question comes from Young and Freedman 11th edition. Chapter 5, problem 5.119
 

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In the first force diagram β is in the wrong place?
 
Oh man, you're right! Thank you.
 

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