MHB Finding $n$: $\sqrt {n+16}\,\, and\,\, \sqrt {16n+1} \in N$

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The discussion focuses on finding natural numbers \( n \) such that both \( \sqrt{n+16} \) and \( \sqrt{16n+1} \) are also natural numbers. The solutions identified include \( n = 33 \), \( n = 105 \), and a typographical error suggesting \( n = 10008 \). The conditions imply that \( n \) must satisfy specific equations derived from the square roots being natural numbers. Ultimately, the valid solutions for \( n \) are confirmed to be 33 and 105. The exploration highlights the relationship between \( n \) and the expressions under the square roots.
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$n\in N$
$\sqrt {n+16}\,\, and\,\, \sqrt {16n+1}$ are also $\in N$
find $n$
 
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Albert said:
$n\in N$
$\sqrt {n+16}\,\, and\,\, \sqrt {16n+1}$ are also $\in N$
find $n$

let $n-=m^2-16$
then $16n + 1 = k^2$ as it is a perfect square
or $16m^2-255 = k^2$
or $16m^2-k^2 = 255$
or $(4m-k)(4m+k)= 255 = 1 * 255 = 3 * 85 = 5 * 51 = 15 * 17$
choosing pairs
$4m-k = 1, 4m+ k = 255$ we get m = 32 or n = 1008
$4m-k = 3, 4m+ k = 85$ we get m = 11 or n = 105
$4m-k = 5, 4m+ k = 51$ we get m = 7 or n = 33
$4m-k = 15, 4m+ k = 17$ we get m = 8 or n = 0 which is not admissible as n is natual number

so n = 33 or 105 or 1008
 
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kaliprasad said:
let $n-=m^2-16$
then $16n + 1 = k^2$ as it is a perfect square
or $16m^2-255 = k^2$
or $16m^2-k^2 = 255$
or $(4m-k)(4m+k)= 255 = 1 * 255 = 3 * 85 = 5 * 51 = 15 * 17$
choosing pairs
$4m-k = 1, 4m+ k = 255$ we get m = 32 or n = 1008
$4m-k = 3, 4m+ k = 85$ we get m = 11 or n = 105
$4m-k = 5, 4m+ k = 51$ we get m = 7 or n = 33
$4m-k = 15, 4m+ k = 17$ we get m = 8 or n = 0 which is not admissible as n is natual number

so n = 33 or 105 or 10008
so n = 33 or 105 or 10008 (a typo)
n=33,105,1008
 
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