Finding Pathways from A to B: Strategies for Test Prep

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The discussion focuses on finding the number of pathways from point A to point B around a pond, emphasizing the need for effective test prep strategies. The original poster struggles with a specific problem and seeks a better approach than using permutations, which are inadequate for this scenario. A suggested method involves calculating the number of ways to reach each point sequentially, allowing for a systematic accumulation of pathways. However, it's noted that without movement restrictions, the number of paths could be infinite due to the possibility of looping. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting strategies for complex pathway problems in preparation for upcoming tests.
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I am studying for a test on Monday,

I am making myself problems and I don't know how to do this one.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8076/pathwayhf7.jpg

How many ways are there to get from A to B?

The middle is a "pond" and there are pathways on all sides of the pond.

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I ussually do these with permutations, for example of there is a grid in which you have to travel down 8 and right 5 I find out how many distinct permutations there are of DDDDDDDDRRRRR and that is the answer. Of course this only works for simple pathway problems and is useless in this scenario.

I know that I will be facing problems like this on my test so I need a better strategy, can someone help me find one?



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Nevermind, I think that the best way to tackle these is just to add up the number of ways of getting to each point and then use that to derive the number of ways to get to the next point. Then just rinse and repeat.
 
dontdisturbmycircles said:
Nevermind, I think that the best way to tackle these is just to add up the number of ways of getting to each point and then use that to derive the number of ways to get to the next point. Then just rinse and repeat.

That's about as good as it gets, in the general case.

Unless there are some restrictions on how you move, the number of paths is infinite, since you can go round a closed loop any number of times. In your "permutations of DDDDDDDDRRRRR" example you seem to be assuming you can only move down and right.
 
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