Finding plane distance from ground, with only a sound recorder and a stopwatch

In summary, the conversation discusses an idea to calculate the distance and velocity of a flying airplane using sound waves and physics calculations. However, the group realizes they lack sufficient knowledge to carry out the experiment and seeks help from experts. They also mention the importance of knowing the sound frequency of a stationary airplane in order to accurately determine the velocity.
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Hey! :smile: Was discussing with my friends back then about the interesting usage of physics in daily life when we suddenly had some interesting ideas that would be exciting to experiment on.

One of the ideas we had was to calculate the distance and velocity of a flying airplane without directly looking at it. We know that there is a plane flying across a particular area, so we can get prepared early before its coming.

Given that we can only record the sound wave produced by the airplane (with minimum background noises and sound diffraction) with a SIMPLE sound recorder, we would be able to get information on the sound waves. With the aid of physics calculations on the waves, we think that we should be able to deduce the velocity, direction of travel, and distance from ground of the airplane. However, after some intense brainstorming, we noticed that we do not have sufficient physics knowledge to deal with this.

To make our lives easier by not getting through all those extra physics studying (as we are not taking it as major), I decided to post the question here to get some help from the pros :smile: . Hey guys, is it practically possible to find how fast the plane is flying? Or do we lack information here?
 
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General principle: The doppler shift (which is what you would measure) will depend on the velocity component in your direction only.

Further you need to know what the sound frequency would be if the airplane wasn't moving, although you could deduce it if the plane first approaches you and then passes and continues away. The average of the before and after frequency shifts gives you the stationary airplane sound frequency.
 

1. How do I use a sound recorder and a stopwatch to find the distance of a plane from the ground?

To find the distance of a plane from the ground using a sound recorder and a stopwatch, you will need to first record the sound of the plane as it passes overhead. Start the stopwatch as soon as the plane's sound reaches your recording device and stop it when the sound stops. Then, use the formula Distance = Speed x Time to calculate the distance of the plane from the ground.

2. What is the speed of sound and how does it relate to finding the distance of a plane from the ground?

The speed of sound is approximately 343 meters per second in dry air at room temperature. This speed is constant, so by measuring the time it takes for the sound of the plane to reach your recording device, you can use the formula Distance = Speed x Time to calculate the distance of the plane from the ground.

3. Are there any factors that could affect the accuracy of using a sound recorder and stopwatch to find the distance of a plane from the ground?

Yes, there are a few factors that could affect the accuracy of this method. These include wind speed, temperature, humidity, and the altitude of the plane. These factors can affect the speed of sound and therefore impact the calculated distance. It is important to take these into consideration when using this method.

4. Can this method be used for all types of planes?

Yes, this method can be used for all types of planes as long as the sound of the plane can be recorded and the speed of sound is constant. However, it may be more accurate for slower-moving planes as it can be challenging to start and stop the stopwatch accurately for faster-moving planes.

5. Are there any alternatives to using a sound recorder and stopwatch to find the distance of a plane from the ground?

Yes, there are other methods that can be used to find the distance of a plane from the ground, such as using a rangefinder or using trigonometry with the angle of elevation and the known height of the plane. However, these methods may require additional equipment and may not be as feasible in certain situations. The sound recorder and stopwatch method is a simple and accessible option that can still provide a reasonably accurate measurement.

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