Finding Points of Inflection for a Given Function: A Homework Challenge

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The discussion revolves around finding points of inflection for a function based on its second derivative, which is presented graphically. Participants are attempting to analyze the behavior of the function f(x) by examining its second derivative f''(x) = x^4 - 4x^2 and its implications for inflection points.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the intercepts of the second derivative and their implications for inflection points. There is an exploration of how to determine the y-coordinates of inflection points without having the original function f(x). Some participants question the correctness of the identified points of inflection based on the behavior of the first and third derivatives.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and questioning the assumptions made about the relationship between the derivatives and the inflection points. There is a recognition of confusion regarding the calculation of y-coordinates for the inflection points, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants express uncertainty about the integration process and the implications of the second and third derivatives on the original function. There is a mention of constraints due to the lack of the original function f(x) and the challenge of finding y-intercepts without it.

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Homework Statement


Suppose the graph f''(x) of a function is given by:
(see attachment)

(a) Find all points of inflection of f(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


First I figured, by looking at the graph and seeing the intercept points [(-2,0),(0,0),(2,0)] that f''(x) = [tex]x^{4}-4x^{2}[/tex]
solving for f''(x)=0 gives us x = -2 or 0 or 2.
Between -2 < x < 2 there is no change of sign, which indicates no point of inflection.
Thus the points of inflection for f(x) are at x = -2 and x = 2.
correct?
But how can I find the y intercepts with just what I have? I only know how to find them by putting x back into f(x). As we don't have f(x) here, I'm stuck. Integrating back doesn't help because of the unknown variables.
Or am I trying too hard, and what I've done is the answer?
 

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Well, remember that an inflection point of f(x) is where the first derivative is at either a maximum or minimum. And find first the maxima and minima of the first derivative, we must solve the zeros of the third derivative =D
 
Dr Zoidburg said:

Homework Statement


Suppose the graph f''(x) of a function is given by:
(see attachment)

(a) Find all points of inflection of f(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


First I figured, by looking at the graph and seeing the intercept points [(-2,0),(0,0),(2,0)] that f''(x) = [tex]x^{4}-4x^{2}[/tex]
Okay, that looks good.

solving for f''(x)=0 gives us x = -2 or 0 or 2.
?? If f(x)= x4 - 4x2 then f '(x)= 4x3- 8x and f "(x)= 12x2- 8. That is not 0 at x= 0, 2, and -2!

Between -2 < x < 2 there is no change of sign, which indicates no point of inflection.
Thus the points of inflection for f(x) are at x = -2 and x = 2.
correct?
But how can I find the y intercepts with just what I have? I only know how to find them by putting x back into f(x). As we don't have f(x) here, I'm stuck. Integrating back doesn't help because of the unknown variables.
Or am I trying too hard, and what I've done is the answer?
 
third derivative is [tex]4x^{3}-8x[/tex]
solving for f'''(x) = 0 gives us
x = +/-[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] and x = 0.

minima points of f''(x) are at x = (-[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex], -4) & ([tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex], -4)
maxima point of f''(x) is (0, 0).

I still confused here! How does this help me find the y co-ordinates for inflection points of f(x)?
 
HallsofIvy said:
?? If f(x)= x4 - 4x2 then f '(x)= 4x3- 8x and f "(x)= 12x2- 8. That is not 0 at x= 0, 2, and -2!
the graph x4 - 4x2 is the second derivative, not f(x).
 

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