Finding required resistor to reduce voltage

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The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate resistor to use with a #47 incandescent lamp rated at 6.3V for 150 mA, in order to reduce the voltage from a 13.5V car battery to the required 6.3V across the bulb. Participants explore the implications of using different resistor values and their effects on voltage and current through the bulb.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant modeled the bulb as a resistor and calculated that a resistance of 42Ω would be needed to achieve 6.3V, leading to a theoretical requirement of 48Ω when considering the 13.5V source.
  • Another participant confirmed that 48Ω is correct but questioned the practical application of using a 10% resistor, specifically the 47Ω resistor, which results in a voltage of 6.37V across the bulb.
  • Some participants noted that the 47Ω resistor is close enough to the desired voltage, while others pointed out that the 56Ω resistor would result in a lower voltage of 5.79V, which is still workable.
  • Concerns were raised about the current through the bulb with the 47Ω resistor exceeding the design rating, potentially causing it to burn slightly brighter, while the 56Ω resistor would reduce the current and dim the bulb slightly.
  • One participant introduced the idea that variations in resistor values and potential voltage spikes from the car battery could lead to increased current and power dissipation, suggesting that a 56Ω resistor might provide better longevity for the bulb.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the 47Ω resistor is a practical choice, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of using it versus the 56Ω resistor, particularly concerning the bulb's brightness and lifespan. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal resistor choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants noted that the design considerations depend on the tolerance of the resistors and the potential for voltage fluctuations in the car's electrical system, which could affect the current and power dissipation in the bulb.

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Homework Statement


Your task is to design a "dummy" indicator light for your car. The cheapest bulb available is a #47 incandescent lamp rated at 6.3V for 150 mA. The problem is, your car produces 13.5 V when it's on. Choose the nearest 10% resistor that will reduce the voltage across the bulb to 6.3V.


Homework Equations


V = IR


The Attempt at a Solution



I modeled the bulb as a resistor:

6.3 V = .150 A * R
Which gives R = 42 [itex]\Omega[/itex].

From there, I plugged this value into a new circuit with a 13.5 V source instead of a 6.3 V source, and added the unknown resistor to the equation:

13.5 V = .150 A * R + 6.3 V
7.2 V = .150 A * R
R = 48 [itex]\Omega[/itex].

The nearest 10% resistor value is 47 [itex]\Omega[/itex], but this wouldn't reduce the voltage across the bulb to 6.3 V. The next closest 10% resistor is 56 [itex]\Omega[/itex]. It just seems that this value is too high ... Did I follow this process correctly? What would you choose?
 
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48-ohms look right. What are you getting for the new bulb voltage (with the 47-ohm R)?
 
48 ohms is the theoretical value, but I have to choose a 10% resistor to use. When I use the 47 ohm resistor, I end up with 6.37 V across the bulb.
 
Close enough!

[edit: To the letter of the question the solution does not exist. To the intent of the question, 47-ohms is a good answer, if you stipulate your voltage deviation, you should be fine.]
 
With a 47Ω resistor, the bulb will have approximately 6.37 volts across it. Light bulbs are not very picky, so this will work fine.

With the 56Ω resistor, the bulb will only have about 5.79 volts across it. Still, a workable voltage, but it's the current that we're really concerned with...

The 47Ω resistor will limit the current through the bulb to about 151.69 mA which is just over the design rating. The bulb will burn slightly brighter (although probably not noticeably).

The 56Ω resistor will limit the current down to about 137.76 mA and the bulb will burn slightly dimmer. You're only looking at about an 8% loss of current though, so either will work.

I'd use the 47Ω resistor.
 
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With a 47Ω resistor, the bulb will have approximately 6.37 volts across it. Light bulbs are not very picky, so this will work fine.

With the 56Ω resistor, the bulb will only have about 5.79 volts across it. Still, a workable voltage, but it's the current that we're really concerned with...

The 47Ω resistor will limit the current through the bulb to about 151.69 mA which is just over the design rating. The bulb will burn slightly brighter (although probably not noticeably).

The 56Ω resistor will limit the current down to about 137.76 mA and the bulb will burn slightly dimmer. You're only looking at about an 8% loss of current though, so either will work.

I'd use the 47Ω resistor.

Thanks, so would my TA, as I got a 100% on the assignment. :)
 
With ±10% resistors there could be a resistor that is 42.3Ω and car battery voltage can spike into the 14.0 volt range. That would cause 166 ma to flow through the bulb or about 10.7% more. Since power is I²R, there can be an extra 23% power dissipated through the bulb which will shorten its life.

IMO the design would have had some breathing room built in if you went with the 56Ω bulb.
 

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