Finding Roots for a Challenging Polynomial Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the roots of a polynomial equation given by x^4 + 4x^3 + 14x^2 = -4x - 13. Participants express difficulty in factoring the equation and explore various methods to approach the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to rearrange and factor the polynomial, with some suggesting the use of the quadratic formula. There are questions about the feasibility of factoring and the nature of the roots.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the polynomial and its factors. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential factorizations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity of the polynomial and the challenges posed by specific coefficients, indicating a need for deeper exploration of the problem's structure.

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What are the ROots:

x^4+4x^3+14x^2=-4x-13

ok the 13 really causes a problem because you can't factor that.
So I move the right side to the left and then you can't find a number that fits so that it equals zero so I tried factoring it somehow but can't do it can someone help?
 
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That's a fairly evil problem to give you, but oh well (if I needed to solve it, I'd just throw it into maple and not think about it!).

It's written that way for a reason. Factor the left side and rearrange to change it to

[tex]x^2(x^2 + 4x + 14) + (4x + 13) = 0.[/tex]

Do you see how to factor it now?
 
no lol

well i have to use the quadratic formula?
 
Yes, and all the roots are complex. Are you sure you don't see how to factor that? I'll rewrite it this way:

[tex]x^2(x^2 + 4x + 13) + x^2 + (4x + 13) = 0[/tex]
 
i thought u were trying to lead me to grouping them to factor but doesn't look like that...

NEVER MIND HOLD ON IM RETARDED
 
Hey Data take a look :

[tex](x^2+1)(x^2+4x+13)[/tex]

?
 
looks good :smile:
 
<3 you :!)
 
in matlab:

>>p= x^4+4x^3+14x^2+4x+13;
>>roots(p)its very easy...heheh
 
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Yes, relying on the previous work of intelligent people is always the easiest way.
 

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