Finding ∫sec²x dx with basic techniques.

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral ∫sec²x dx using basic calculus techniques, specifically avoiding the direct recognition that it is the derivative of tan(x). Participants suggest various methods, including integration by parts and substitutions, while emphasizing that recognizing standard derivatives is a fundamental skill in calculus. One user proposes expressing sec²x in terms of tan²x and sine and cosine functions to facilitate integration. Despite the challenges, the conversation highlights the enjoyment of tackling problems without relying on shortcuts. Ultimately, the quest for a purely basic integration method remains a stimulating challenge for the participants.
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Not really a homework problem, but this is just a problem that's been bugging me for a while: how would you find ∫sec2x dx without "cheating" and using the simple fact that d/dx tanx = sec2x? I know it's possible using integration by parts, but I'm looking for a way using calc I level techniques, like u-substitution. So far no success. Any ideas?
 
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But the most basic of all Calc I methods is to know the derivatives of the "standard" functions so you can recognize those antiderivatives on sight. So knowing the antiderivative of ##\sec^2x## on sight isn't "cheating". It is the standard Calc I method.
 
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Bohrok said:
Not really a homework problem, but this is just a problem that's been bugging me for a while: how would you find ∫sec2x dx without "cheating" and using the simple fact that d/dx tanx = sec2x? I know it's possible using integration by parts, but I'm looking for a way using calc I level techniques, like u-substitution. So far no success. Any ideas?
I don't see how arriving at an anti-derivative by recognizing that the integrand is the derivative of a standard function is "cheating" , but try the following.

This gets pretty ugly, but here goes ...

\displaystyle \sec^2(x) = 1 + \tan^2(x)
\displaystyle = 1 + \frac{\sin^2(x)}{\cos^2(x)}

\displaystyle = 1 + \frac{1-\cos(2x)}{1+\cos(2x)}​
Integrate that.

Unless I missed something, WolframAlpha does it with only substitutions (many of them). See the link: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%281-cos%282+x%29%29%2F%281%2Bcos%282+x%29%29.
 
The substitution u=sec x works.
 
Slightly deviating from SammyS's method and using substitutions,

Remember ##sec^{2}(x) = 1 + tan^{2}(x)##

$$\int sec^{2}(x) dx = \int 1+ tan^2(x)dx = \int 1 + \frac{sin^{2}(x)}{cos^{2}(x)}dx =

\int dx + \int sin(x)\frac{sin(x)}{cos^{2}(x)} dx$$

Integrating by Parts (second integral)
u = sin(x)
u'= cos(x)
v' = sin(x)/cos2(x)
v = 1/cos(x)
 
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I got some great answers, thanks.
vela, u=secx was just what I was looking for :smile:

SammyS, that method looks promising (I was close to working it out like that before), but I kept running into integrating cot2x or csc2x, which are about the same level as integrating sec2x.

BloodyFrozen, I know parts will work; I was just seeing if it was possible using more basic integration techniques in calc I.


I know in a way this problem may seem a little silly by not just using u = tanx since du = sec2x dx in the first place It's kind of like trying to work out a limit problem algebraically without resorting to l'Hôpital's rule; those are the kinds of challenging problems that I like to try working out on my own.
 
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