Finding steady-state solution to 2nd-order DE

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The discussion revolves around finding the particular solution to a second-order differential equation involving sinusoidal forcing. The equation presented is Lq'' + Rq' + (1/c)q = Esin(xt), where participants are exploring the method to derive the coefficients A and B in the assumed solution form.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of equating coefficients of sin(xt) and cos(xt) on both sides of the equation to derive two equations for the unknowns A and B. There is some uncertainty about the correct application of this method.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. Some have expressed confusion about the steps involved in factoring and equating terms, while others have confirmed the need to solve for A and B after setting up the equations.

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There appears to be some ambiguity regarding the manipulation of terms and the interpretation of the equations derived from the original differential equation. Participants are working within the constraints of the homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share.

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Homework Statement


I want to get the particular solution for:

Lq''+Rq'+(1/c)q = Esin(xt)

Homework Equations


Lq''+Rq'+(1/c)q = Esin(xt)

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the particular solution and its derivatives:

q = A*Sin(xt) + B*cos(xt)
q' = x*A*cos(xt) - x*B*sin(xt)
q'' = -x^2*A*sin(xt) - x^2*B*cos(xt)

I plug these into the 2nd order equation giving me:

A[-x^2*L*sin(xt) + R*x*cos(xt) + (1/c)*Sin(xt)] + B[-x^2*L*cos(xt)-x*R*sin(xt)+(1/c)*cos(xt)] = Esin(xt)

I want to get the form of A and B in the attached image

Also, alpha = x in my typing.
 

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Identifythe factors of sin(xt) on both sides of the wquation and then do the same for cos(xt). That gives you two equations for two unknowns.
 
Orodruin said:
Identifythe factors of sin(xt) on both sides of the wquation and then do the same for cos(xt). That gives you two equations for two unknowns.

I'm not sure if I understand. So I factor out sin(xt) on both sides and factoring cos(xt) giving me:

sin(xt)*[-L*x^2*A - R*x*B + (1/c)*A] + cos(xt)*[-L*x^2*B + R*x*A + (1/c)*B]
 
That's just one side of the equation. You need to do it on both sides and then identify the factors on either side.
 
Orodruin said:
That's just one side of the equation. You need to do it on both sides and then identify the factors on either side.

But the other side is just Esin(xt).

So I have:

(-L*x^2*B) + (R*x*A)+([1/c]*B) = 0
(-L*x^2*A) - (R*x*B) + ([1/c]*A) = E
 
Right. Solve for A and B.
 
Orodruin said:
Right. Solve for A and B.

I got the answer, thank you.
 

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