This linear transformation maps the point (2,1) to...

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The discussion revolves around a linear transformation T from R to R², specifically how it maps certain points, including (2,1). Participants are exploring the implications of given mappings, such as T(1,2) = (2,3) and T(-1,2) = (2,-3), and how these relate to the transformation of other points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the calculations involved in applying the linear transformation, particularly the coefficients used in the transformation of the point (2,1). Questions are raised about the arithmetic leading to specific vector components and the notation used in expressing the transformation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the mappings and the equations derived from them. Some participants are providing clarifications on vector arithmetic and notation, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the transformation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the transformation without providing complete solutions. There is a noted emphasis on the definitions of vector operations and the implications of the linear transformation's properties.

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Homework Statement


Let T:R->R^2 be the linear transformation that maps the point (1,2) to (2,3) and the point (-1,2) to (2,-3). Then T maps the point (2,1) to ...

Homework Equations


T(xa+yb) = xT(a)+yT(b)

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so I have the solution to this problem, but its understanding some multiplication that's getting me.

They get x=5/4 and y = -3/4

and they do the following

T(c) = xT(a) +yT(b)

T(21)=(5/4)T(12)-(3/4)T(-12)

(5/4)(23)-(3/4)(2-3)

(16)

I just need someone to explain to me how they got the 1 and 6 at the end.
 
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Fellowroot said:

Homework Statement


Let T:R->R^2 be the linear transformation that maps the point (1,2) to (2,3) and the point (-1,2) to (2,-3). Then T maps the point (2,1) to ...

Homework Equations


T(xa+yb) = xT(a)+yT(b)

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so I have the solution to this problem, but its understanding some multiplication that's getting me.

They get x=5/4 and y = -3/4

and they do the following

T(c) = xT(a) +yT(b)

T(21)=(5/4)T(12)-(3/4)T(-12)

(5/4)(23)-(3/4)(2-3)

(16)

I just need someone to explain to me how they got the 1 and 6 at the end.
5/4 * 2 - 3/4 * 2 = 2/4 * 2 = 1
and
5/4 * 3 - 3/4 * (-3) = 15/4 + 9/4 = 24/4 = 6

All of the expressions are two-d vectors. They are just using ordinary vector arithmetic to get their answer.

BTW, you should connect equal expressions with '='.
 
Fellowroot said:
T(xa+yb) = xT(a)+yT(b)
This is a nitpick, but it's far more common to denote the vectors by x,y and the scalars by a,b. (It's not wrong to use your notation, but it could cause confusion).

Also note that the equation is just a part of the statement. The full statement goes like this: For all ##a,b\in\mathbb R## and all ##x,y\in\mathbb R^2##, we have ##T(ax+by)=aT(x)+bT(y)##.

Let ##x,y\in\mathbb R^2## and ##a\in\mathbb R## be arbitrary. Do you know how ##ax## and ##x+y## are defined? Those definitions are the only things that Mark44 used to answer your question.
 
Any linear transformation from R2 to R2 maps (x, y) to (ax+ by, cx+ dy) for some numbers a, b, c, and d. You are told that this linear transformation "maps the point (1,2) to (2,3)" so (a(1)+ b(2), (c(1)+ d(2))= (2, 3) which gives the two equations a+ 2b= 2 and c+ 2d= 3. You are told that this linear transformation also "maps the point (-1,2) to (2,-3)" so -a+ 2b= 2 and -c+ 2d= -3.

Solve the four equations, a+ 2b= 2, c+ 2d= 3, -a+ 2b= 2, and -c+ 2d= -3 for a, b, c, and d.
 

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