Finding the acceleration in a curvilinear motion (n-t)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total acceleration of a mine skip being hauled over a curved track described by the equation y = x²/28. The drum turns at a constant speed of 96 revolutions per minute, equating to a linear speed of 15.92 ft/s. The radius of curvature, calculated as 15.33 ft, leads to a normal acceleration of 16.53 ft/s². The confusion arises from the assumption that tangential acceleration is zero, which is incorrect as it implies no change in speed.

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Homework Statement


The mine skip is being hauled to the surface over the curved track by the cable wound around the 38-in. drum, which turns at the constant clockwise speed of 96 rev/min. The shape of the track is designed so that y = x2/28, where x and y are in feet. Calculate the magnitude of the total acceleration of the skip as it reaches a level of 3.5 ft below the top. Neglect the dimensions of the skip compared with those of the path. Recall that the radius of curvature is given by
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Homework Equations


an = v2

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed that the angular speed of the drum is the same as the speed of the mine skip which is constant, so tangential acceleration would be 0.
v = 96 rev/min = 15.92 ft/s.
ρ = 15.33 ft using the given formula.
an = 15.922/15.33 = 16.53 ft/s2.
since at = 0 => a = an = 16.53 ft/s2, but it said my answer is wrong. Is that because at is not 0 and how do I find it?
 
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If the tangential acceleration was zero the skip would not speed up ...
 
Orodruin said:
If the tangential acceleration was zero the skip would not speed up ...
It didn't say the skip speeds up and doesn't the speed of the skip equal to the angular speed?
 
Zang said:
It didn't say the skip speeds up and doesn't the speed of the skip equal to the angular speed?
I missed the drum and cable and thought it was accelerating due to gravity.

Can you show your work leading up to ##\rho = 15.33'##? I do not get the same result.
 
Orodruin said:
I missed the drum and cable and thought it was accelerating due to gravity.

Can you show your work leading up to ##\rho = 15.33'##? I do not get the same result.
y = x2/28
dy/dx = x/14
at x = 3.5 ft, dy/dx = 3.5/14 = .25
d2y/dx2 = 1/14
ρ = ((1+.252)3/2)/(1/14) = (1.0625)3/2 * 14 = 1.095 * 14 = 15.33 ft
 
The problem statement seems to indicate that y=3.5', not x=3.5'.
 
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Orodruin said:
The problem statement seems to indicate that y=3.5', not x=3.5'.
I totally missed that. Thank you so much!
 

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