Finding the acceleration of a refrigerator

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a refrigerator when a minimum force is applied to overcome static friction. The problem involves concepts from dynamics, specifically the effects of static and kinetic friction on motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between static and kinetic friction, the forces acting on the refrigerator, and the calculations involved in determining acceleration. Questions arise regarding the necessity of considering both types of friction and the reasoning behind subtracting opposing forces.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the concepts of static and kinetic friction, and some have provided guidance on the importance of free body diagrams and the net force calculation. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind including both static and kinetic friction in the analysis.

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There is a focus on understanding the forces involved in moving the refrigerator, particularly the transition from static to kinetic friction. Participants are also addressing the implications of the forces being in opposite directions during the calculations.

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Homework Statement


The coefficient of kinetic friction between a refrigerator and the floor is 0.20. The mass of the refrigerator is 100.0 kg, and the coefficient of static friction is 0.25. Determine the acceleration when you apply the minimum force needed to get the refrigerator to move.

The answer is 0.49 m/s^2.

Homework Equations


Sum of the forces: Fx = max = Fa + (-Fs)

Fy = 0 = Fn = mg

F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, so I have worked at this problem for quite some time now. I know for a fact that the normal force applied on this object is 980 from solving it through the sum of the forces in the y-component formula.

I know that Fs can be written as Us times Fn. If I use static friction, Fs = 245 N. With kinetic, its 196 N.

I tried solving for acceleration using either forces (divide F by m) but was not able to get the right answer.

Perhaps someone here can assist me?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Remember that there is friction when it moves.
 
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physics411 said:
Perhaps someone here can assist me?

It would help if you showed your working.
Your first step should almost always be to draw a free body diagram.

Do you know what static and kinetic friction mean?

What is the minimum push force required to move the refrigerator? ie which type of friction must be overcome?
Once the fridge is moving, what is the opposing frictional force? So what is the net force on the fridge that causes the acceleration?
 
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billy_joule said:
It would help if you showed your working.
Your first step should almost always be to draw a free body diagram.

Do you know what static and kinetic friction mean?

What is the minimum push force required to move the refrigerator? ie which type of friction must be overcome?
Once the fridge is moving, what is the opposing frictional force? So what is the net force on the fridge that causes the acceleration?
Yes, I do know what static and kinetic friction mean.

The type of friction that must be overcome is the force of static friction, as the refrigerator is stationary initially, no?

So I already found that which is 245 N. Because Fa = Fs (as I stated before).

Fs = Us * Fn
= (0.25)(100*9.8)
= 245 N

So this is the force that has to be overcome.

When the fridge is moving:

Fk = Uk*Fn
= (0.20)(100*9.8)
= 196 N

Fnet = 245 - 196 / 100
= 0.49 m/s^2 !

Okay so thank you for helping me find the acceleration, but I am confused about one thing, why do we include Fs and Fk when finding the net force? When the object is moving, isn't the Fs out of the question then? and Why do we subtract them!
 
It is excellent that you still ask when you found the correct number.

Why subtract - because the forces are in opposite directions. You are still pushing, working against the friction.
 
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PietKuip said:
It is excellent that you still ask when you found the correct number.

Why subtract - because the forces are in opposite directions. You are still pushing, working against the friction.
Ohh I understand how it all works now! Thanks for your time and help
 
physics411 said:
Okay so thank you for helping me find the acceleration, but I am confused about one thing, why do we include Fs and Fk when finding the net force? When the object is moving, isn't the Fs out of the question then? and Why do we subtract them!

The force required to move the fridge needs to overcome the static friction. Once the fridge is moving you are still applying the same push force but now the opposing friction (now kinetic) force is less. You are right that Fstatic friction is out of the question when the object is moving but the push force when moving is determined by Fstatic friction in the first place.

The net force on the fridge is the sum of all forces:
∑F = ma
∑F = Fpush + Fkinetic friction = ma

Fpush and Ffriction are in opposite directions so depending on what you chose as the positive x direction one of them will be negative.
 
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