Finding the astronaut's weight on a planet's surface

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To find the weight of an astronaut on a planet's surface, the mass of the planet must be calculated using the orbital period and radius of the landing craft's orbit. The astronaut's weight is determined by the gravitational acceleration at the planet's surface, which is derived from the planet's mass and radius. The radius used in calculations must be the sum of the planet's radius and the altitude of the landing craft. Clarifications were made regarding the correct interpretation of variables in the equations, particularly distinguishing between the radius of the orbit and the distance above the surface. Ultimately, accurate calculations require careful attention to the parameters involved in the orbital mechanics equations.
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Homework Statement



A landing craft with mass 1.22×10^4 kg is in a circular orbit a distance 5.50×10^5 m above the surface of a planet. The period of the orbit is 5100 s . The astronauts in the lander measure the diameter of the planet to be 9.50×10^6 m . The lander sets down at the north pole of the planet.
What is the weight of an astronaut of mass 84.1 kg as he steps out onto the planet's surface?

Homework Equations


circular motion speed: v = √GM/r
g: GM/r2
T = 2πr/v

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to solve for the speed by using the period.
5100 = 2π(5.50*10^5)/v
v = 677.6 m/s
and using the circular motion speed equation, I tried to solve for M, where the radius i used is the radius of the planet:
677.6 = √6.67*10^-11*M/4.75*10^6
M = 3.27*10^22

and then i used GM/r^2 to solve for G.

6.67*10^-11*3.27*10^22/(4.75*10^6) and i got a really small g. I think I'm missing something. Especially because I haven't used the space satellite's mass.
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
A landing craft ... in a circular orbit a distance 5.50×10^5 m above the surface of a planet.
T = 2πr/v
5100 = 2π(5.50*10^5)/v
In the equation T = 2πr/v, what does r represent? What does the distance 5.50×10^5 m represent?
 
TSny said:
In the equation T = 2πr/v, what does r represent? What does the distance 5.50×10^5 m represent?
That distance represents how far the landcraft is hovering above the planet
 
Vanessa Avila said:
That distance represents how far the landcraft is hovering above the planet
That's what the number 5.50 x 105 m represents. But the r in 2πr/v is a different distance.
 
TSny said:
That's what the number 5.50 x 105 m represents. But the r in 2πr/v is a different distance.
so the r should be the radius of the planet instead of the distance the landing craft is from the planet?
 
Vanessa Avila said:
so the r should be the radius of the planet instead of the distance the landing craft is from the planet?
No. Think about where the formula T = 2πr/v comes from. The craft moves at constant speed while in orbit. For something moving at constant speed, distance = speed x time. Or, time = distance/speed. Apply this to one orbit of the craft so that the time is equal to the period T:

T = distance/v. Here, the distance is how far the craft travels in one circular orbit.
 
TSny said:
No. Think about where the formula T = 2πr/v comes from. The craft moves at constant speed while in orbit. For something moving at constant speed, distance = speed x time. Or, time = distance/speed. Apply this to one orbit of the craft so that the time is equal to the period T:

T = distance/v. Here, the distance is how far the craft travels in one circular orbit.
so would the r be the planet's radius + landing craft's distance?
 
Vanessa Avila said:
so would the r be the planet's radius + landing craft's distance?
Yes. r is the radius of the craft's orbit.
 
can i use > 5100s = 2π(r1+r2)/√GmM/(r1+r2) to solve for M ?
TSny said:
Yes. r is the radius of the craft's orbit.
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
can i use > 5100s = 2π(r1+r2)/√GmM/(r1+r2) to solve for M ?
Yes, except why does m appear on the right side?

Nit picky note: To avoid confusion with the square root symbol √, use parentheses to show what belongs inside the square root. If I write √ab, then it is not clear if both the a and the b are inside the square root. Most people would interpret √ab to mean that only the "a" is inside the square root. If you want to indicate that both a and b are inside, then you should write √(ab).
 
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