Finding the Boundary Conditions of a Potential Well

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The discussion revolves around finding the boundary conditions for a potential well, specifically focusing on the conditions for a bound state as expressed in two equations. The original poster attempts to derive these conditions by manipulating a given equation that describes reflection and transmission coefficients in quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of setting the denominators of the reflection and transmission equations to zero to derive boundary conditions. Questions arise regarding the definitions of variables such as q and the relationships between the parameters involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying the problem statement and the equations involved, while others are examining the mathematical relationships and attempting to identify missing elements in the original poster's approach. There is an ongoing exploration of the algebraic manipulations required to reach the boundary conditions.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the definitions of variables and the setup of the equations, which may affect the understanding of the problem. The original poster acknowledges a need to revisit the algebra involved in the derivation.

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Homework Statement



Show that the conditions for a bound state, Eqn1 and Eqn2, can be obtained by requiring the vanquishing of the denominators in Eqn3 at k=i\kappa. Can you give the argument for why this is not an accident?


Homework Equations



Eqn1: \alpha=q*tan(qa)
Eqn2: \alpha=-q*cot(qa)

Eqn3:

R= i*e^{-2ika}\frac{(q^{2}-k^{2})*sin(2qa)}{2kq*cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})*sin2qa}
T=e^{-2ika}\frac{2kq}{2kq*cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})*sin2qa}

The problem concerns a potential well of V_{0} from -a to a.
I believe that k^{2}=\frac{2mE}{h(bar)^{2}} and that \kappa^{2}=-\frac{2m(E-V_{0})}{h(bar)^{2}}

I also know that in order to reach these boundaries through another method in the book, they let -\alpha^{2}=\frac{2mE}{h(bar)^{2}}...


The Attempt at a Solution


I removed the demoninators from Eqn3 and tried to substitute k=\sqrt{\frac{2mE}{h(bar)^{2}}} into Eqn3... but not only was this result messy but I couldn't get the boundary conditions, Eqn1 and Eqn2 to come out. Help?
 
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I'm not 100% clear on your problem statement...First, what is q? Second are these the equations you meant to write:

R= ie^{-2ika}\frac{(q^{2}-k^{2})\sin(2qa)}{2kq\cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})\sin(2qa)}

T=e^{-2ika}\frac{2kq}{2kq\cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})\sin(2qa)}

k=\left(\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}\right)^{1/2}

\kappa=\left(\frac{2m(V_0-E)}{\hbar^2}\right)^{1/2}

\alpha=\left(-\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}\right)^{1/2}

?
 
<br /> q=\left(\frac{2m(E+V_0)}{\hbar^2}\right)^{1/2}<br />
 
Okay, let's look at your eqn 3..."the vanquishing of the denominators" is just a fancy way of saying that 2kq\cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})\sin(2qa)=0...so \tan(2qa)=___?
 
=\left(\frac{sin(2qa)}{cos(2qa)}\right)?
 
Well of course, but what is that equal to when 2kq\cos(2qa)-i(q^{2}+k^{2})\sin(2qa)=0?
 
Alright, I'll take a closer look at this at a later time to make sure that I understand it but I think the missing link is that I initially overlooked q and \alpha. I'm sure that the solution will be clear once I make it through the alegbra, thanks
 

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