Finding the derivative of m(x)=-e^xcosx

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The problem involves finding the derivative of the function m(x) = -e^x * cos(x) at x = 1, both graphically and algebraically. The discussion centers around the application of derivative rules, particularly the product rule and the properties of exponential functions.

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  • Participants discuss the initial attempt to find the derivative and question the correctness of the application of derivative rules. There is a focus on the product rule and the derivative of exponential functions. Some participants express confusion about their results when comparing algebraic and graphical methods.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of the product rule and the properties of the exponential function. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still exploring the correct approach.

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One participant notes they had not learned about the derivative of exponential functions prior to this discussion, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the derivative of m(x)=-e^x*cosx at x=1 graphically and algebraically.

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The Attempt at a Solution



So first i just attempted to find the derivative:

m'(x)=-xe^(x-1)*(-sinx)----> is this correct?

so to find at x=1 i just sub in 1.

m'(1)=-(1)e^(1-1)*(-sin1)
m'(1)=-1e^0*(-sin1)
m'(1)=0.01745

Is this correct? When i tried graphing the derivative i got a different answer so it made me second guess my original answer.

Any help is very much appreciated, thank you.
 
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Buzzlastyear said:

Homework Statement



Find the derivative of m(x)=-e^x*cosx at x=1 graphically and algebraically.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So first i just attempted to find the derivative:

m'(x)=-xe^(x-1)*(-sinx)----> is this correct?
No, it's not. You are mis-using some basic properties of the derivative. In the first place the "product rule": the derivative of fg is (fg)'= f'g+ fg', not just " f'g' " as you have here.

Second, the rule " (xn)'= n xn-1" applies only when the variable is the base and the exponent is a constant. With ex or, more generally, ax, for any positive a, that rule does not apply. Look up the derivative of ex sdecifically.

so to find at x=1 i just sub in 1.

m'(1)=-(1)e^(1-1)*(-sin1)
m'(1)=-1e^0*(-sin1)
m'(1)=0.01745

Is this correct? When i tried graphing the derivative i got a different answer so it made me second guess my original answer.

Any help is very much appreciated, thank you.
 
Okay, thank you. I had not learned about the derivative of exponential functions but looked it up. So is -e^x still just -e^x?
 
And as for using the product rule, would this be correct?

m'(x)=-e^x*(cosx) + (-sinx)(-e^x)

assuming my previous post is correct?
 
Yes, f(x)= ex has the very nice property that its derivative is just f'(x)= ex again. That's why the number "e" has a special symbol.
 
Okay, thanks very much for your help.
 

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