Finding the Determinant to find out if the matrix is invertible

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of a matrix's determinant to determine its invertibility. The user correctly found a determinant of 0 using one method, indicating the matrix is not invertible, but encountered a different result (40) using a second method. Confusion arose regarding the theorem that states the determinant should remain unchanged when a multiple of one row is added to another. A participant pointed out a calculation error in the user's second attempt, specifically in the determinant calculation. The user acknowledged the mistake and expressed gratitude for the clarification.
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Homework Statement
I am given the following matrix. I solved the question and found out that the resulting determinant is 0, thus the matrix is not invertible. However, I tried the question in another method, and I am getting a different answer for the determinant. Why is the second method not working?
Relevant Equations
Theorem: if a multiple of one row of A is added to another row to produce matrix B, then det B = det A
question:
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My first attempt:
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my second attempt:
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So I am getting 0 (the right answer) for the first method and 40 for the second method. According to the theorem, shouldn't the determinant of the matrix remain the same when the multiple of one row is added to another row? Can anyone explain why the second method is not working?

Thank you very much!
 
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Sunwoo Bae said:
Homework Statement:: I am given the following matrix. I solved the question and found out that the resulting determinant is 0, thus the matrix is not invertible. However, I tried the question in another method, and I am getting a different answer for the determinant. Why is the second method not working?
Relevant Equations:: Theorem: if a multiple of one row of A is added to another row to produce matrix B, then det B = det A

question:
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My first attempt:
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my second attempt:
View attachment 266774So I am getting 0 (the right answer) for the first method and 40 for the second method. According to the theorem, shouldn't the determinant of the matrix remain the same when the multiple of one row is added to another row? Can anyone explain why the second method is not working?

Thank you very much!
You made a mistake in your second attempt, in the 4th row above the bottom. Take another look at the 3rd deteriminant. You have (-8)(-1) = 9.
 
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Mark44 said:
You made a mistake in your second attempt, in the 4th row above the bottom. Take another look at the 3rd deteriminant. You have (-8)(-1) = 9.
I got it! Thank you so much!
 
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