Finding the Indefinite Integral of a Product of Exponential Functions

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The discussion revolves around finding the indefinite integral of the product of exponential functions, specifically the integral of \(3^x e^x\). Participants are exploring the correct formulation and approach to this integral.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning the original poster's notation and understanding of integrals. There is a focus on clarifying the distinction between integrands and functions, as well as the application of integration rules. Some participants suggest rewriting the integral in a different form to facilitate integration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and guidance on notation and integration techniques. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the problem, and some participants are seeking further clarification on the derivative of exponential functions.

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Participants note that the original poster is working on a practice problem and feels uncertain due to a lack of exposure to similar problems in their coursework.

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Homework Statement


F(x)= (3^x)(e^x)dx



Homework Equations


F(u)=U^n=(U^(n+1))/n+1


The Attempt at a Solution


I said it equaled:
((3^(x+1))/(x+1))(e^x)
 
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Your post doesn't make sense. Why don't you write things out using normal notation so we don't have to guess as to what you mean?
 
You've made a number of very basic errors. First, and this may be what Vela was complaining about, it doesn't make sense to have a function equal to an integrand- what you meant to say, instead of F(x)= 3^xe^xdx was that the integrand was 3^x e^x dx or, equivalently that you were trying to find F(x)= \int 3^xe^x dx.

You make the same kind of error when you write "F(u)=U^n=(U^(n+1))/n+1". U^{n+1}/(n+1) is the integral of U^n, they are not equal. (Oh, and two minor things- "u" and "U" are not interchangeable and what you wrote, U^(n+1)/n+ 1 is equal to (U^(n+1)/n)+ 1, not U^(n+1)/(n+1).)

Most importantly, that "power rule" does not apply here. It applies to the variable to a constant power and what you have here is a constant to a variable power. And, of course, you cannot simply multiply by e^x as if it were a constant.

Instead, use the fact that 3^x= e^{ln 3^x}= e^{xln(3)} and write the integral, \int 3^xe^x dx, as \int e^{x ln(3)}e^x dx= \int e^{x ln(3)+ x}dx= \int e^{x(ln(3)+ 1)}dx.

Now, do you know how to integrate \int e^{ax}dx?
 
no i do not. can you tell me please?
 
This isn't for a class? Do you know the derivative of eax?
 
yes it is for a class. But, it is a practice problem. We haven't seen similar problems to this, so i am quite lost at the moment. I know the derivative of e^x is e^x.
 
gyza502 said:
yes it is for a class. But, it is a practice problem. We haven't seen similar problems to this, so i am quite lost at the moment. I know the derivative of e^x is e^x.
Do you know the chain rule ?

If so, use it ti find the derivative of eax, a being a constant.
 

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