Finding the mass of a beam by static equilibrium

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The problem involves determining the mass of a beam in static equilibrium, where a known weight is applied at one end and another weight is placed at a distance on the opposite side to achieve balance. The scenario includes specific measurements related to the positions of the weights and the length of the beam.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the principle of torque to establish a balance between the left and right sides of the beam. They question whether their approach to incorporating the mass of the beam and the weights is correct. Other participants inquire about the length of the beam and clarify that the weight of the beam acts at its center.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and the application of torque. Some guidance has been offered regarding the location of the beam's weight, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to solving for the mass of the beam.

Contextual Notes

The total length of the beam is noted as 98.3 cm, which may influence the calculations regarding the distribution of mass and the application of torque.

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Homework Statement



This is actually an experiment we did at class. A horizontal beam was loaded with 100 grams weight at the left end. This beam was supported (with my hands) at 30 centimeters from the left end until balance is restored by putting another weight (168 grams) on the other side, which was found out to be 6.4 centimeters from the point of support (POS) at the right side. I need to find the mass of the beam given this information.

I'll try my best to illustrate this with text

|---------X----------|-----------|

wt here POS other wt here
(100g) (168g)


Homework Equations



Torque left = Torque right; or that they will sum up to zero

T=r x F; but since weight is perpendicular then T=rF or T=rmg (since only the weight is acting on the beam); but then I need to account for the weight of the weight added and the mass of the beam itself so: T=r (mass of beam portion + mass of added obj) g

to find the mass of the beam portion, we assumed the mass was distributed evenly; hence mass beam portion = Mass beam total * r / total length

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to Torque left=Torque right --->

r left * (mass beam left + mass added left) g = r right * (mass beam right + mass added right) g

and removed g

then I substituted the mass beam (left/right) with total mass beam * r / total length

giving me

rleft (Mtotal rleft/Ltotal + madded left )=rright (Mtotal rright/Ltotal + madded right)


Is this the correct way to go about the problem? The answers I get are very far from the measured mass of the beam.
 
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What is the length of the beam?
 
I forgot, sorry it's 98.3 cm.
 
Weight of the bar acts at the center of the beam. Now apply

Torque left = torque right and find m.
 

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