Finding the mass of a solid, using Spherical Coordinates.

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The problem involves finding the mass of a solid defined by specific boundaries in spherical coordinates, with a given density function. The solid is bounded above by the surface defined by z = √(25 - x² - y²) and below by the plane z = 4.

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the boundaries into spherical coordinates, particularly the limits for the radial variable ρ and the angle φ. There is uncertainty regarding the correct limits for φ, with some suggesting it should be arcsin(1/5) while others propose it should be arcsin(3/5) or arccos(4/5).

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There is active engagement with multiple interpretations of the limits for φ and ρ. Some participants express confusion about the correct boundaries and the use of z = 1 versus z = 4. Guidance has been offered regarding the transformation process, but no consensus has been reached on the final limits.

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Homework Statement


Find the mass of the solid bounded from above z = √(25 - x2-y2) and below from z = 4, if its density is δ = k(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(-1/2).

Homework Equations


m = ∫∫∫δdV

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The plane z = 4 is transformed into ρcosφ = 4, that is, ρ = 4secφ. And x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 25 is ρ = 5. θ goes from 0 to 2π. But I'm struggling finding the limits for φ (the azimuth). I think φ must go from 0 to π/2, but I can't get the correct answer (which is kπ). The book suggests that I must express the upper limit for φ as an inverse cosine, but why is that? From the figure I can see φ goes from 0 to 90°.

Thanks in advance
 
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Yes, \rho, the radial variable, goes from 0 to 5 and \theta, the "longitude" goes from 0 to 2\pi. \phi, the "co-latitude" goes from 0 to arcsin(1/5) since line making angle \phi with the z-axis, to a point on the hemi-sphere with z= 1, is the hypotenuse of a right triangle with "opposite side" 1.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Yes, \rho, the radial variable, goes from 0 to 5 and \theta, the "longitude" goes from 0 to 2\pi. \phi, the "co-latitude" goes from 0 to arcsin(1/5) since line making angle \phi with the z-axis, to a point on the hemi-sphere with z= 1, is the hypotenuse of a right triangle with "opposite side" 1.

Wait, ρ goes from 0 to 5? I tought ρ went from 4secφ to 5. And why do you use z = 1?
 
supermiedos said:
Wait, ρ goes from 0 to 5? I tought ρ went from 4secφ to 5. And why do you use z = 1?

You are correct for ##\rho## and ##\phi## from 0 to ##\arcsin(\frac 3 5)## or ##\arccos(\frac 4 5)##.
 
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LCKurtz said:
You are correct for ##\rho## and ##\phi## from 0 to ##\arcsin(\frac 3 5)## or ##\arccos(\frac 4 5)##.
Thanks both of you for your help. The result it's correct :)
 
I used z= 1 because I misread your post, thinking the base was 4 places below the top, at z= 1, rather than at z= 4. Of course, you should use z= 4, not z= 1.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I used z= 1 because I misread your post, thinking the base was 4 places below the top, at z= 1, rather than at z= 4. Of course, you should use z= 4, not z= 1.
Thank you, and thanks for the idea of the triangle.
 

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