Finding the Tangent Line of x^4+2x^2 at x=1

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the tangent line to the function f(x) = x^4 + 2x^2 at the point x = 1, a topic within calculus. Participants are examining their approaches to this problem, particularly in relation to the AP calculus exam answer guide.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants describe their attempts to find the derivative and evaluate the function at the specified point. There is discussion about the linearization method and confusion regarding the correct form of the tangent line equation. Some participants express uncertainty about the discrepancy between their answers and the answer key.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with multiple participants sharing their calculations and questioning the validity of the answer provided by the exam guide. Some express doubt about the correctness of the answer key, while others confirm their similar results, indicating a collective exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in the answer key and discuss the implications of using Taylor series for first-order approximations. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the application of calculus concepts, particularly in relation to finding slopes and intercepts for tangent lines.

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Homework Statement


Okay, so I was helping someone study for the AP calculus exam, and I don't really know why we got this question wrong. It says to find the tangent line to the equation f(x)=x^4+2x^2 at x=1.


Homework Equations


Taylor series, we'll just use first order.
f(x)|_{x=x_0} \approx f(x_0) + f'(x_0)(x-x_0)


The Attempt at a Solution


Should be easy as cake, but according to the AP exam answer guide the answer I got is wrong. Anyways, here's what I did.

f'(x)=4x^3 + 4x
f(1)=3
f'(1)=8

So, using our first order expansion (this level of calculus would simply call it "linearization") we should get:
f(x)|_{x=1} = 3 + 8x - 8 = 8x -5

This was one of the answers, just not the right one according to the answer sheet. The right answer was something like x - .329

I just don't see either why my answer is incorrect, and why the other answer would be correct. Am I being stupid?
 
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I don't think you're being stupid. I got the same answer and I am at a loss as to how they got a y intercept of -.329 if the slope is x. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mistake
 
Mindscrape said:

Homework Statement


Okay, so I was helping someone study for the AP calculus exam, and I don't really know why we got this question wrong. It says to find the tangent line to the equation f(x)=x^4+2x^2 at x=1.


Homework Equations


Taylor series, we'll just use first order.
f'(x)|_{x=x_0} \approx f(x_0) + f'(x_0)(x-x_0)


The Attempt at a Solution


Should be easy as cake, but according to the AP exam answer guide the answer I got is wrong. Anyways, here's what I did.

f'(x)=4x^3 + 4x
f(1)=3
f'(1)=8

So, using our first order expansion (this level of calculus would simply call it "linearization") we should get:
f'(x)|_{x=1} = 3 + 8x - 8 = 8x -5

This was one of the answers, just not the right one according to the answer sheet. The right answer was something like x - .329

I just don't see either why my answer is incorrect, and why the other answer would be correct. Am I being stupid?

Taylor series, we'll just use first order (Should be)
f(x) \approx f(x_0) + f'(x_0)(x-x_0), not f'(x)|_{x=x_0}\approx\dots

It should be:
y = 3 + 8x - 8 = 8x -5, not f'(x).

I would simply find f'(x)|_{x=1}=8, and use that for the slope of the tangent line.

Then find the y intercept, b, from y=mx+b\ \ \to\ \ 3=8(1)+b.

Then plug the slope & y-intercept back into the equation for the line.
 
I used a different method and arrived at the same answer you did.

I believe it is an error.
 
SammyS said:

Taylor series, we'll just use first order (Should be)
f(x) \approx f(x_0) + f'(x_0)(x-x_0), not f'(x)|_{x=x_0}\approx\dots

It should be:
y = 3 + 8x - 8 = 8x -5, not f'(x).

I would simply find f'(x)|_{x=1}=8, and use that for the slope of the tangent line.

Then find the y intercept, b, from y=mx+b\ \ \to\ \ 3=8(1)+b.

Then plug the slope & y-intercept back into the equation for the line.

Sorry, whoops, I don't know why I put a prime on f(x) the first time I truncated the TS (the second time I just copied and pasted). Thanks for catching that, I'll fix it now even!

Nice to know that others got the same answer.
 
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