Finding the Unit Normal Vector to a Curve at a Specific Point

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The problem involves finding the unit normal vector to the curve defined by the equations x=y²=z³ at the point (1,1,1), with the additional constraint that the normal vector cannot have components along the line x=y=z.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the differential length vector and uses the dot product to find the normal vector. Another participant suggests parametrizing the curve and calculating the tangent vector, indicating the need for the normal vector to be orthogonal to both the tangent vector and the direction vector along x=y=z.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including parametrization and vector cross products. There is an acknowledgment of a potential error in the original poster's work, and some participants are clarifying details about the differentiation process.

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There is a mention of a constraint regarding the normal vector's components, as well as a note about the editing capabilities of participants in the forum.

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Hi I'm having trouble finishing this problem and I'd appreciate it if someone could help me out.

I need to find the unit vector normal to x=y^2=z^3 at the point (1,1,1) and it can't have components along the line x=y=z

Heres what I did so far:
1. dx=2ydy=3z^2dz
2. At (1,1,1) dx=2dy=3dz
3. differential length vector dl=dxax+(1/2)dxay+(1/3)dxaz
(ax is the unit vector in the x-direction etc)
4. Rewrote dl as dl=[ax+(1/2)ay+(1/3)az)]dx

If I use the dot product and I let an=normal vector then the dot product of dl and an should equal 0. OK that's as far as I can get :(
 
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Let's see. If you if parametrize given curve you would get [tex]\gamma(t)=(t, t^\frac{1}{2}, t^\frac{1}{3})[/tex]. Tangent vector to a curve is given by [tex]\vec{\tau}=\frac{d\gamma(t)}{dt}=[1, \frac{1}{2}t^\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{3}t^{-\frac{2}{3}}][/tex]. At point M=(1,1,1) it becomes [tex]\vec{\tau_M}=[1,\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{3}][/tex]. Vector that is along x=y=z direction is given by [tex]\vec{a}=[1,1,1][/tex]. So, your vector should be normal to the curve at point M (which means it should be normal to [tex]\vec{\tau_M}[/tex] and should not be in direction of [tex]\vec{a}[/tex]. To be sure it is so, set your vector to be [tex]\vec{b}=\vec{\tau_m}\times \vec{a}[/tex]. Then just divide resulting vector by its magnitude and this is it.
 
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Oh yes, excuse me. My fingers were faster then brain. Ill fix it immidiatelly
 
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To remain annoying, please add a minus sign to the differentiated y-component's exponent..:smile:
 
Hmm, I don't see edit button under my post.
 

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