Finding time to increase temp with power

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time required to heat 1 m³ of water from 20°C to 60°C using a solar-powered hot water heater with a collector area of 6 m² and sunlight power of 1000 W/m². Participants clarify the relevant equations, particularly focusing on the energy required (Q) and the power available from the solar collector. The correct approach involves using the formula Q = mc(Tf - Ti) to find the energy needed, then dividing by the total power output from the solar collector to determine the time. After correcting initial miscalculations, the final calculation yields approximately 7.75 hours. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurately applying the area of the solar collector in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


A hot water heater is operated by using solar power. If the solar collector has an area of 6 m^2, and the power per unit area delivered by sunlight is 1000 W/m^2, how long in hours will it take to increase the temperature of 1 m^3 of water from 20C to 60C? (1 cal=4.186 J)



Homework Equations


I'm not really sure...
I know that:
power=(sigma)AeT^4
sigma = Stefan -Boltzman constant = 5.6696x10^(-8) W/m^2*K^4
A = surface area
e = emissivity
T = surface temp.
but we weren't given emissivity so i don't think I use this...

maybe mc(Tf-Ti)/P = (change in time)

?? I'm really clueless on what equation to use, please help!
 
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crazyog said:

Homework Statement


A hot water heater is operated by using solar power. If the solar collector has an area of 6 m^2, and the power per unit area delivered by sunlight is 1000 W/m^2, how long in hours will it take to increase the temperature of 1 m^3 of water from 20C to 60C? (1 cal=4.186 J)



Homework Equations


I'm not really sure...
I know that:
power=(sigma)AeT^4
sigma = Stefan -Boltzman constant = 5.6696x10^(-8) W/m^2*K^4
A = surface area
e = emissivity
T = surface temp.
but we weren't given emissivity so i don't think I use this...

maybe mc(Tf-Ti)/P = (change in time)

?? I'm really clueless on what equation to use, please help!
There is no need to invoke the Stefan-Boltzmann law here.

What is the definition of power?
 
P = force /area ??

(the answer is stated as 7.8)
 
crazyog said:
P = force /area ??
That's pressure, not power.
 
oh yeah hahahha wow, whoops.

P= Work/change in t
or P = Q/ (delta T)
 
crazyog said:
oh yeah hahahha wow, whoops.

P= Work/change in t
or P = Q/ (delta T)
Correct. So you know that power provided and you can work out the work/energy required using one of your aforementioned equations.
 
So do I use mc(Tf-Ti) to find Q?
(1000 kg)(4186)(60-40)?
I used 1000 kg for the mass because D = m/v
we know the density of water is 10^3 = m/(1m^3)
and solved for m ...= 1000
but this is not giving me 7.8
 
crazyog said:
So do I use mc(Tf-Ti) to find Q?
(1000 kg)(4186)(60-40)?
You're good so far. What the next step?
 
Ok so I did (1000)(4186)(60-40) = 83720000/(1000) = 83720
^ I rearranged the P = Q/ (delta t) solved for delta t = 83720 in secs

then they want it in hours so dived by 3600s (83720)/3600 = 23.25 hrs

the answer is 7.8 according to the book so I am not sure where I am going wrong, please help!
 
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I figure I must be missing something since I am not using the area of 6 m^2
 
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crazyog said:
I figure I must be missing something since I am not using the area of 6 m^2
Indeed you are:
crazyog said:
Ok so I did (1000)(4186)(60-40) = 83720000/(1000) = 83720
^ I rearranged the P = Q/ (delta t) solved for delta t = 83720 in secs
crazyog said:
If the solar collector has an area of 6 m^2, and the power per unit area delivered by sunlight is 1000 W/m^2
This means that each square meter on the surface of the Earth receives 1000W of energy from the sun.
 
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oh yeah i see that now
soooo..
P = 1000 W/m^2 and there are 6m^2 so it should be multiplied by 6
1000)(4186)(60-40) = 83720000/(6000) = 13953.3333
and then divide by 3600...3.875
still not 7.8 =/
 
  • #13
I realized my mistake!
It should be 60-20

(1000)(4186)(60-20)/(6000)
and then divided by 3600
=7.75

thank you so much for your help!
 
  • #14
crazyog said:
I realized my mistake!
It should be 60-20

(1000)(4186)(60-20)/(6000)
and then divided by 3600
=7.75

thank you so much for your help!
A pleasure :smile:
 
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