Finding $\vec{u}.\vec{v}$ Given $|\vec{u}+\vec{v}|=1$ and $|\vec{u}-\vec{v}|=5$

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The discussion revolves around finding the dot product of two vectors, \(\vec{u}\) and \(\vec{v}\), given the magnitudes of their sum and difference. The problem is set in the context of vector algebra in \(R^n\).

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the magnitudes of the vectors and their dot product using the properties of vector operations. Some participants suggest utilizing the given magnitudes in conjunction with the dot product definitions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions on how to proceed with the problem. There is a focus on manipulating the equations derived from the magnitudes to find the dot product, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the relationship between the magnitudes of the vectors and their individual squares, indicating a potential gap in information or understanding that is being addressed through collaborative reasoning.

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If \vec{u},\vec{v} \in R^n, find \vec{u}.\vec{v} given that |\vec{u}+\vec{v}|=1 and that |\vec{u}-\vec{v}|=5.

When i first looked at this i thought i knew how to do it, but i got a bit stuck. I started by finding the dot product:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> (\overrightarrow u - \overrightarrow v ) \cdot (\overrightarrow u - \overrightarrow v ) = \left| {\overrightarrow u } \right|^2 + \left| {\overrightarrow v } \right|^2 - 2\overrightarrow u \cdot \overrightarrow v \\ <br /> \therefore \left| {\overrightarrow u - \overrightarrow v } \right|^2 = \left| {\overrightarrow u } \right|^2 + \left| {\overrightarrow v } \right|^2 - 2\overrightarrow u \cdot \overrightarrow v \\ <br /> \therefore \overrightarrow u \cdot \overrightarrow v = \frac{{\left| {\overrightarrow u } \right|^2 + \left| {\overrightarrow v } \right|^2 - \left| {\overrightarrow u - \overrightarrow v } \right|^2 }}{2} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br /> <br />

And that's where I am stuck. I am sure its something simple, but i haven't managed to see it :smile:
 
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You are given both |\vec{u}-\vec{v}| and |\vec{u}+\vec{v}| but don't seem to have used the value of |\vec{u}+ \vec{v}|. Did you consider looking at (\vec{u}-\vec{v})\cdot(\vec{u}+\vec{v})= |u|^2- |v|^2?
 
I couldn't find relationship between |u|^2-|v|^2

but, continuing your way
(u-v).(u-v) = u^2+v^2-2u.v
(u+v).(u+v) = u^2+v^2+2u.v

now, it's just one step since you know both left side values
 
rootX said:
I couldn't find relationship between |u|^2-|v|^2

but, continuing your way
(u-v).(u-v) = u^2+v^2-2u.v
(u+v).(u+v) = u^2+v^2+2u.v

now, it's just one step since you know both left side values

Oh so now i can just solve by eliminating u^2+v^2?

Thanks for the help guys :smile:
 
danago said:
Oh so now i can just solve by eliminating u^2+v^2?

if that answers the question ...
 

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