Finding Volume Using Polar Coordinates: Inside Sphere and Outside Cylinder

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The discussion focuses on finding the volume of a solid defined by being inside the sphere x²+y²+z²=16 and outside the cylinder x²+y²=4 using polar coordinates. The setup for the double integral is confirmed as correct, with the integration limits for r set from 2 to 4 and θ from 0 to 2π. There is clarification that the volume calculation does not simply involve subtracting the cylinder's volume from the sphere's volume, as the cylinder does not fully fit within the sphere at all points. The final volume result is confirmed as correct, despite initial concerns about discrepancies with expected values. The conversation emphasizes understanding the geometric relationships between the shapes involved in the integration.
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Homework Statement



Use polar coordinates to find the volume of the given solid.

Inside the sphere x²+y²+z²=16 and outside the cylinder x²+y²=4.

Homework Equations



x=rcosΘ,y=rsinΘ, x²+y²=r²

The Attempt at a Solution



2∫∫ (√(16-r²)r)drdΘ R{(r,Θ)l 0<Θ<2∏, 2<r<4}

I was wondering if this is the correct set up. I solved the equation for the sphere for z, and then substituted my x²+y², and I used that as the function which I want to integrate under because Its the function that goes the highest. Then I figured that the radius was going from 2 to 4 because that is the radius of each of the shapes. I chose to go from 0 to 2pi because I know that I need to roatate 360 degrees. I multiplied by two because i know the functions are symmetric.
 
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1) Why does r not vary from 0 to 4? (EDIT: I overlooked the cylinder)

2) Why do you have only two integrals if your integrating over a region in three-dimensional space?

Remember that in general the volume of some solid S in three dimensional space is given by
<br /> V = \int_S dx dy dz = \int_S r drd\Theta dz<br />
So the third question:

3)Why is the function you are integrating - √(16-r²)r) - different from r?
4) What does the capital R in your formula mean?
 
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I had it not vary from 0 to 4 because it has to be inside the sphere but outside the cylinder which has a radius of 2. It is in two integrals because the problems at this point in the book only want you using double integrals.
 
Ok, as I see it now you had implicitly performed the z-integral
<br /> \int_0^{\sqrt{16-r^2}}dz=\sqrt{16-r^2}<br />

already.

Then the set-up looks correct to me.
 
Awesome. Thank you so much.
 
You're welcome. If you want your final result checked just post it.
 
sounds good. After the first integral I am getting (2/3)*(12)^(3/2), and then when I do the second integral I end up getting (4/3)*(12)^(3/2)*pi.

That answer worries me a little bit because I would expect it to be equal to this (4/3)*pi*4³-pi*2²*2*sqrt(2) but its not.
 
EV33 said:
sounds good. After the first integral I am getting (2/3)*(12)^(3/2), and then when I do the second integral I end up getting (4/3)*(12)^(3/2)*pi.

That answer worries me a little bit because I would expect it to be equal to this (4/3)*pi*4³-pi*2²*2*sqrt(2) but its not.

Why would you expect that? The answer
<br /> \frac{4}{3}12^{3/2}\pi = 32\sqrt{3}\pi<br />
is correct.

The volume you consider is NOT the volume of the sphere minus the volume of the cylinder because at the poles the cylinder is not contained in the sphere.
 
oh I see what you are saying. I don't know why I didn't realize that. Thank you.
 

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