Iterated integral in polar coordinates

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid defined by a hemisphere and an offset vertical cylinder using polar coordinates. The hemisphere is described by the equation z=sqrt(16-x^2-y^2), while the cylinder is defined by the equation x^2+y^2-4x=0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral, particularly the bounds for r and the interpretation of the cylinder's equation in polar coordinates. There is a focus on understanding the geometry of the shapes involved and how they interact.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the hemisphere and the cylinder, questioning the bounds of integration, and discussing the correct representation of the cylinder in polar coordinates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the order of integration and the need for a clearer understanding of the cylinder's geometry.

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There is mention of the challenge posed by the cylinder being offset, which complicates the determination of the integration bounds. Participants are encouraged to visualize the problem better, potentially through diagrams.

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Homework Statement


Use polar coordinates to find the volume of the solid inside the hemisphere z=sqrt(16-x^2-y^2) and inside the cylinder x^2+y^2-4x=0

Homework Equations


z=sqrt(16-x2-y2)
x2+y2-4x=0
x=rcos(Θ)
y=rsin(Θ)

z=√(16-r2)

The Attempt at a Solution



∫∫ r√(16-r2) dr dΘ

The problem is the bounds; because the circle isn't centered it's throwing me off. Would dr be from 2 to 4? That's the start and end of the radius as it's a circle centered at (2,0) with a radius of 2. Of course I'm assuming that dΘ is from 0 to 2pi. I tried integrating with dr from 0 to 2 and from 2 to 4, but both times the answer was different than Wolfram's.
 
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Do you understand what the object looks like? Can you post a decent picture, or describe it well in words?
The first trick is to get the order of integration right, and you have done that (z first here). But you need r to be a radius of the circle. How can you arrange that?
 
It's an offset vertical cylinder under a hemisphere. I don't follow what else you're saying.
 
e^(i Pi)+1=0 said:

Homework Statement


Use polar coordinates to find the volume of the solid inside the hemisphere z=sqrt(16-x^2-y^2) and inside the cylinder x^2+y^2-4x=0

Homework Equations


z=sqrt(16-x2-y2)
x2+y2-4x=0
x=rcos(Θ)
y=rsin(Θ)
So what do you get for the polar coordinate equation of that cylinder? You need that.
 
e^(i Pi)+1=0 said:
It's an offset vertical cylinder under a hemisphere. I don't follow what else you're saying.
Yes, it's offset, but can you be more precise about how the cylinder fits within the hemisphere? Draw a diagram for z=0.
In principle, you have a triple integral, ∫∫∫dxdydz. In what you posted, you have already done the dz integral, reducing it to ∫∫zdxdy. That was good. So now you can think of z as just a function of x and y, and forget the reality of the hemisphere.
In your conversion to polar, you have set r = √(x2+y2). That represents a radius of the hemisphere, which is no longer interesting. What will work better?
 

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