Finding Weight on Inclined Plane

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The discussion revolves around the components of weight for an object on an inclined plane, specifically focusing on free-body diagrams and the application of trigonometric functions to resolve weight into parallel and perpendicular components relative to the incline.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the geometric interpretation of weight components using trigonometric functions. Questions arise about the correctness of angle assignments in diagrams and the relationship between the incline angle and the weight components. There is also a query regarding the behavior of these components when the incline is zero degrees.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the geometric setup and trigonometric relationships, while others express a desire to understand the underlying reasoning behind the equations. There is an acknowledgment of errors in angle representation, and some clarity has been gained regarding the relationship between incline angles and weight components.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of exploration into the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the basic concepts, indicating a foundational level of understanding.

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EDIT: I think I just figured it out...could you check out the picture I added and see if my reasoning is right?

Thanks!

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/618/20080716103213jm3.png

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I'm working on free-body diagrams and I'm having trouble finding the components of the weight of an object on an inclined plane. I know that if you take the +x axis to be the plane and the +y axis to be the direction of the normal force that the weight components are:

W parallel = mgsin(theta)
W perpendicular = mgcos(theta)

where theta is the angle of inclination

My problem is that I have trouble "seeing" geometrically how to actually FIND the components using trig functions. Is the weight -always- going to be determined by these two equations if I use the coordinate system that I mentioned?

Sorry if this is too basic a question! I just wanted to see the "why" behind these equations.
 
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Your angles are shown incorrectly. What you have shown as (90- A) is actually A, and vice versa. Carefully do the geometry first, then the trig. You will find that the weight component parallel to the incline is mgsinA, and the weight component perpendicular to the incline is mg cosA.
 
Hi tod88,

tod88 said:
EDIT: I think I just figured it out...could you check out the picture I added and see if my reasoning is right?

Thanks!

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/618/20080716103213jm3.png

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I'm working on free-body diagrams and I'm having trouble finding the components of the weight of an object on an inclined plane. I know that if you take the +x axis to be the plane and the +y axis to be the direction of the normal force that the weight components are:

W parallel = mgsin(theta)
W perpendicular = mgcos(theta)

where theta is the angle of inclination

My problem is that I have trouble "seeing" geometrically how to actually FIND the components using trig functions. Is the weight -always- going to be determined by these two equations if I use the coordinate system that I mentioned?

Sorry if this is too basic a question! I just wanted to see the "why" behind these equations.

I notice you have one set of equations in the diagram, and a different set in the post itself. (In your picture, you say the cosine function is associated with the parallel component, and in the post itself you say the cosine function goes with the perpendicular component.)

When the box is just on level, flat ground, that corresponds to your angle of inclination A (or [itex]\theta[/itex]) being zero degrees. In that situation, is the perpendicular or parallel component of the weight equal to zero? (parallel or perpendicular to the ground) Which set (in the picture or in the post) of equations agrees with that?
 
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Ah...that makes sense. So whenever there's no incline, all the weight is perpendicular (mg)(cos(0)) = mg and whenever the incline is 90˚, all the weight is parallel (mg)(sin(90˚) = mg and the object is in free-fall.

And thanks for the comment on my diagram too...I see where I messed up the angles. I think I understand now.
 

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