Finite difference method for Schrödinger equation

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The discussion centers on the finite difference method applied to the time-independent Schrödinger equation, specifically regarding the numerical approximation of the second derivative and its validity. Participants explore the connection between the finite difference approximation and the underlying quantum mechanical principles.

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  • One participant describes the discretization of the Schrödinger equation and the use of the central difference formula to approximate the second derivative.
  • Another participant questions the connection between the energy expression derived from the dispersion relation and the operator form of the second derivative.
  • Some participants clarify that the relationship involves the momentum operator and its eigenfunctions, specifically referencing plane waves as eigenfunctions of the momentum operator.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between wavenumber as a numerical value and its representation as an operator in quantum mechanics.

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Participants express differing views on the connection between the numerical approximation and the quantum mechanical framework, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on how the finite difference approximation relates to the operator form of the second derivative, highlighting potential gaps in understanding the theoretical implications.

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Suppose I want to solve the time-independent Schrödinger equation
2/2m ∂2/∂x2 + V)ψ = Eψ
using a numerical approach. I then discretize the equation on a lattice of N points such that x=(x1,x2,...,xN) etc. Finally I approximate the second order derivative with the well known central difference formula:
2/∂x2 ≈ 1/Δx2i+1i-1-2ψi)
My question is now: How do you estimate the validity of this approximation? I have already talked to my teacher about it and he said the following:
The discrete approximation is a tight-binding model with dispersion:
E = ħ2/2m * 2/Δx2(1-cos(kΔx))
So for Δx<<1/k we can taylor expand this expression to give:
E ≈ ħ2/2m * 2/Δx2(1-(1-1/2(kΔx)2))=ħ2k2/2m
Which, according to my teacher, shows that the approximation holds provided that the lattice spacing is much shorter than the wavelength. What I don't get is how you can argue that because the dispersion is parabolic in k the finite difference approximation for the derivative ∂2/∂x2 is a good approximation. In short: What "connects" ħ2k2/2m with ħ2/2m ∂2/∂x2?
 
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aaaa202 said:
In short: What "connects" ħ2k2/2m with ħ2/2m ∂2/∂x2?
You mean apart from the fact that ##p = \hbar k## and ##\hat{p}^2= -\hbar^2 \frac{d^2}{dx^2}##?
 
But k is not an operator in this case. It is a wavenumber. What connects the number form with the operator form?
 
aaaa202 said:
But k is not an operator in this case. It is a wavenumber. What connects the number form with the operator form?
Plane waves. Eigenfunctions of the ##\hat{p}^2## operator are of the form ##\exp(i k x)## where ##k = p/\hbar##, with ##p## the momentum of the corresponding plane wave.
 

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