First Order ODE Help: Troubleshooting Tips for Solving Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) involving the equation xy' - 4y = 0. Participants are exploring the process of separating variables and integrating to find solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the separation of variables technique and the integration process. There is a focus on the validity of implicit versus explicit solutions and the implications of the instructor's requirements.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the integration steps and the nature of the solution. Some participants have provided guidance on the correct form of the solution, while others have acknowledged the original poster's progress.

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There is mention of potential constraints based on the instructor's expectations regarding explicit solutions, which may affect how participants approach the problem.

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Having a bit of trouble, what do i do next? Thanks.
 

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Uh, you've already solved the problem. There's nothing left for you to do here.
I do see that you didn't find an explicit version of y (i.e. nothing of the form y=...), but in many cases of ODE's, this is not even possible or desirable. The solution you provided is implicit, but it's a valid solution nonetheless. Except when your instructor told you to find an explicit solution, then you're not done yet...
 
You have the equation xy'- 4y= 0 and have separated it as
\frac{dy}{4y}= \frac{dx}{x}[/itex]<br /> You then integrate to get <br /> 4 ln(y)= ln(x)+ C<br /> <br /> That is incorrect: <br /> \int \frac{dy}{4y}= \frac{1}{4}\int\frac{dy}{y}= \frac{1}{4}ln(y)<br /> NOT &quot;4 ln(y)&quot;.<br /> <br /> You should then have ln(y^{1/4})= ln(cx) where C= ln(c).<br /> <br /> That will then give you y^{1/4}= cx or y= c^4x^4 which you could also write as y= C&amp;#039; x^4 with C&amp;#039;= c^4.<br /> <br /> It would have been better to have left the &quot;4&quot; on the right side of the equation:]<br /> \frac{dy}{y}= \frac{4dx}{x}
 
thanks, I've got it now :)
 

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