# Flaw in alternative approach to determine ideal gas speed distribution

In summary, the velocity distribution function is proportional to a Boltzmann factor, with a constant factor of proportionality.
If we assume the energy of particles in an ideal gas follows a Boltzmann distribution, then the energy distribution function can be defined as below:

, where k_B is the Boltzmann constant

Since the energy of particles in an ideal gas are assumed to only consist of translational kinetic energy (as they don't interact),

, where v is the speed of the particle

However, for a certain level of kinetic energy, there is only one speed that can be associated with it, as speeds take positive value and hence there is a one-to-one relationship between the speed of a particle and its kinetic energy.

By this reasoning, the distribution function of energy should be proportional to the distribution function of velocity. In other words, the velocity distribution function is also proportional to a Boltzmann factor, with a constant factor of proportionality.

However, the Maxwell-Boltzmann speed distribution shows the velocity distribution having the following form:

Although I can follow the derivation of the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, I fail to see why the line of reasoning I described in previous paragraphs is wrong. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Indeed, there is just one speed for any energy, but the quantity of interest is given by the number of available states at a certain energy, which is not given by the speed, but by the velocity - a particle moving along the x-axis is certainly in a different state than a particle moving along the y-axis with the same speed.

Velocity is a vector and if you do a quick drawing of a 3D plot, where the three axes are given by the x-, y- and z-components of the velocity, you will find that all vectors that add up to the same speed form the surface of a sphere. If you take a moment to consider how the number of possible vector component combinations that sum up to the same speed scales with the total speed, you should be able to identify the additional factor in the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution.

hutchphd
Thank you!

The flow is that you don't take the word "distribution" seriously. The Maxwell distribution can be given in various forms. You have to start with the fundamental definition as a phase-space distribution function
$$f(\vec{x},\vec{p})=\frac{1}{(2 \pi \hbar)^3} \exp \left (-\frac{\vec{p}^2}{2m k_{\text{B}} T} \right).$$
Which denotes the number of particles at place ##(\vec{x},\vec{p})## per unit of phase space. If you want to transform this to a velocity distribution you have to integrate over space (which gives simply a factor ##V##) and to transform from momenta to ##\vec{v}=\vec{p}/m##. Now ##\mathrm{d}^3 v=\mathrm{d}^3 p/m^3## and thus
$$f_2(\vec{v})=\frac{m^3 V}{(2 \pi \hbar)^3} \exp \left (-\frac{m \vec{v}^2}{2 k_{\text{B}} T} \right).$$
Now you want the energy distribution. Using
$$E=\frac{m}{2} \vec{v}^2\; \Rightarrow \; \mathrm{d}E=m v \mathrm{d} v = \sqrt{2mE} \mathrm{d} v$$
you get
$$\mathrm{d}^3 v = v^2 \mathrm{d} v \mathrm{d} \Omega=\sqrt{\frac{2 E}{m}}\frac{1}{m} \mathrm{d} E.$$
Integrating over the solid angle leads finally to
$$f_3(E)=\frac{V\sqrt{2Em^3}}{2 \pi^2 \hbar^3} \exp \left (-\frac{E}{k_{\text{B}}} \right).$$

Cthugha

## 1. What is the "flaw" in the alternative approach to determine ideal gas speed distribution?

The flaw in the alternative approach is that it assumes all gas molecules have the same speed, which is not true in reality. This leads to inaccurate predictions of the gas behavior.

## 2. How does the alternative approach differ from the traditional approach in determining ideal gas speed distribution?

The traditional approach takes into account the distribution of speeds among gas molecules, while the alternative approach assumes all molecules have the same speed. This results in different predictions for the gas behavior.

## 3. Can the flaw in the alternative approach be corrected?

Yes, the flaw can be corrected by using the traditional approach, which takes into account the distribution of speeds among gas molecules. This will result in more accurate predictions of the gas behavior.

## 4. What are the consequences of using the flawed alternative approach?

The consequences of using the flawed alternative approach can include incorrect predictions of gas behavior, which can lead to errors in experiments and calculations. This can also hinder the development of new technologies and advancements in the field of gas dynamics.

## 5. Are there any real-life examples of the consequences of using the flawed alternative approach?

Yes, there have been cases where the flawed alternative approach has led to incorrect predictions of gas behavior, resulting in failed experiments and inaccurate calculations. This has caused setbacks in the development of technologies such as gas turbines and rocket engines.

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