Flow of a Newtonian fluid down an inclined plane.

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The discussion focuses on the velocity profile of laminar flow of a Newtonian fluid down an inclined plane. Participants explore the assumptions made in the analysis, the forces acting on an infinitesimal control volume, and the implications of having a free liquid surface on pressure distribution.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the assumptions for the analysis: the fluid is Newtonian, laminar, fully developed, and incompressible.
  • The participant describes the evaluation of forces acting on a control volume and expresses understanding of the momentum flux and accumulation balance.
  • A question is raised regarding the constancy of pressure at a free liquid surface, with a comparison to a scenario involving rotating cylinders where a pressure gradient is expected.
  • Another participant clarifies that a free liquid surface is at atmospheric pressure, leading to a cancellation of pressure-force terms in the analysis.
  • Further clarification is provided that the pressure is constant along streamlines but varies in the normal direction to the inclined plane due to gravitational effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of pressure at a free liquid surface, with some asserting that it remains constant while others argue that it can vary under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of centrifugal forces in different scenarios.

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Participants discuss the assumptions and conditions under which pressure is considered constant or variable, highlighting the need for clarity in the context of different fluid dynamics scenarios.

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I'm basically reading on how the velocity profile is found for a laminar flow of a Newtonian fluid down an inclined plane surface. (x is along the incline, y is perpendicular to the incline)

The assumptions being made are
- The fluid is Newtonian
- It's laminar
- It's fully developed
- It's incompressible

What the book did, was to take an infinitesimal control volume, find the forces acting on it, and equate it to the sum of the linear momentum flux and rate of accumulation of momentum in the c.v (along the x-direction)

I understand how the sum of the flux and the accumulation is zero. Next, the book evaluates the forces.
It says,

\sum F_x = P \Delta y|_x - P \Delta y|_{x+\Delta x} + \tau_{yx} \Delta x|_{y+\Delta y} - \tau_{yx} \Delta x|_y + \rho g \Delta x \Delta y \sin \theta

which I understand.

Then it says
Note that the pressure-force terms also cancel because of the presence of a free liquid surfaces.

This is what I don't understand. Why should the pressure be constant for a free liquid surface? For example, if we take a fluid between two cylinders, and rotate the inner cylinder (and make the same assumptions), then the centrifugal force (you know what I mean) would cause a pressure gradient along the radial direction. So, even at the free surface at the top, the pressure won't be constant.
 
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Free liquid surfaces means it is at atm pressure, ie. zero pressure gauge.
 
Ouch. Yeah, it's kinda obvious now :blushing:
 
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siddharth said:
w For example, if we take a fluid between two cylinders, and rotate the inner cylinder (and make the same assumptions), then the centrifugal force (you know what I mean) would cause a pressure gradient along the radial direction. So, even at the free surface at the top, the pressure won't be constant.

That's not true. If you leave the top open, as Cyrus said, the pressure is the atmospheric one at the top of the upmost film. The centrifugal force will curve the shape of the surface as it were a paraboloid, such that the hydrostatic pressure balances the centrifugal overpressure generated.

In your problem, the book should say that pressure is consant along the streamlines, but it is holding hydrostatic equilibrium normal to the plane, but instead with the gravitational acceleration g, with gcos\theta. So it is not uniform in the normal direction to the plane.
 
Clausius2 said:
That's not true. If you leave the top open, as Cyrus said, the pressure is the atmospheric one at the top of the upmost film. The centrifugal force will curve the shape of the surface as it were a paraboloid, such that the hydrostatic pressure balances the centrifugal overpressure generated.

In your problem, the book should say that pressure is consant along the streamlines, but it is holding hydrostatic equilibrium normal to the plane, but instead with the gravitational acceleration g, with gcos\theta. So it is not uniform in the normal direction to the plane.

Yeah, I get it. Thanks
 

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