Flux of a point charge through a circle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric flux of a point charge through a circular area, utilizing Gauss's law. Participants are exploring the implications of varying the distance from the charge and the geometry of the surfaces involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using a cylindrical approach to analyze the flux and consider extreme values for the distance from the charge. There is a focus on comparing different options based on the derived flux values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the necessity of certain approaches and seeking simpler methods. Some guidance has been provided regarding the symmetry of flux distribution, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the geometry and limits of the problem, particularly concerning the behavior of the flux as the distance approaches zero or infinity. The use of specific geometrical shapes, like cylinders, is under scrutiny.

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I will try to choose the correct option using the common sense instead of solving it.

As d decreases, the flux should increase. For R>>d, only option (a) and (d) satisfy this condition.

Now, for choosing between (a) and (d),

Let us consider a cylinder of radius R and length 2d placed symmetric about the charge Q.

Now, using the Gauss's law,

##2\int_{S_{circular} } \vec E \cdot d \vec A + \int_{S_{curved}} \vec E \cdot d \vec A = \frac { Q } {\epsilon_0 } ##

##\int_{S_{circular} } \vec E \cdot d \vec A = \frac { Q } {2 \epsilon_0 } - \int_{S_{curved}} \vec E \cdot d \vec A##

So, the required flux should be less than ##\frac { Q } {2 \epsilon_0 }##.

For R>2d, option (d) does not satisfy the above condition.

So, the correct option is (a).

Is there a way to get the correct option easier than this?
 

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Pushoam said:
Is there a way to get the correct option easier than this?
You could consider an extreme value of d.
 
haruspex said:
You could consider an extreme value of d.
The extreme value of d could be either o or infinity. Right?
If I take d as infinity, then I will have to struggle with option a and d.
If I take d near to 0, then using a small cylinder and the abv approach, it gives option a as then I can neglect the flux due to the curved surface..
But, still, I will have to use that cyllinder approach.

Is there any other easier way?
 
Pushoam said:
But, still, I will have to use that cyllinder approach.
Isn't it obvious that half the flux goes each way out of the circle?
 
haruspex said:
Isn't it obvious that half the flux goes each way out of the circle?
For me,
earliier it wasn't .
now it is.
Thanks for it.
 

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