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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving two blocks, where a block of mass m1 = 10kg rests on a slab of mass m2 = 40kg. The block is subjected to a horizontal force F of 100N, with static and kinetic friction coefficients of 0.60 and 0.40, respectively. The calculated accelerations are a1 = 6.08 m/s² for the block and a2 = 0.98 m/s² for the slab. The confusion arises regarding whether the masses should be combined in the acceleration calculation for the slab, which is clarified as incorrect due to the internal nature of the friction force and the relative motion between the two bodies.

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Hello, I have worked out this physics problem. I then checked my answer, it was correct. However, I have a question about Part B which I will address once all of my information is given;

Homework Statement


A slab of mass m2 = 40kg, rests on a frictionless floor, and a block of mass m1 = 10kg rests on top of the slab. Between the block and the slab the coefficient of static friction is 0.60 and the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.40. The block is pulled by a horizontal force F of magnitude 100N. What are the resulting accelerations of (a) the block and (b) the slab?

2. Relevant data
m1 = mass of block
m2 = mass of slab
f1 = force of friction between block and slab
a1 = acceleration of block
a2 = acceleration of slab

The Attempt at a Solution



A) a1 = [ F - (u)(m1)(g) ] / (m1)

a1 = [ 100 - (0.4)(10)(9.8) ] / (10)

a1 = 6.08 m/s^2

B) a2 = f1 / m2

a2 = 39.2 / 40

a2 = 0.98 m/s^2

My question is; Since the block (m1) is resting on top of the slab (m2) then shouldn't the two be added together in the denominator of the equation in part B?

Is my solution manual wrong?

Thank you for your insight.
 
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Is the answer given under "attempt at solution" solution manual's or yours?
That part seems correct.
 
physStudent_3 said:
My question is; Since the block (m1) is resting on top of the slab (m2) then shouldn't the two be added together in the denominator of the equation in part B?

Is my solution manual wrong?

no, that is wrong:
firstly because in part B the force is friction force which will become internal force and hence cannot be used.
secondly, you cannot club the bodies because they are moving with respect to each other and hence on clubbing it would not remain a translational motion
 

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