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Force on a magnet inside a short coil

  1. Mar 14, 2015 #1
    The equations are incredibly difficult, so I'm just after a general idea of how the force on a magnet bellow a coil changes with the distance to the coil. Shown bellow:

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    Axial symmetry:

    o                 x    
    o                 x               cross section of coil
    o                 x
    o                 x
            /\
             x                      displacement (x)
            \/
             _
            | |
            |_|                       cylindrical bar magnet
     
    From intuition, I would say that the force on the magnet is acting in opposite directions when the magnet is above or bellow the coil. So there must be a zero crossing point. It makes sense that this will be in the center of the coil. So in this case the force vs displacement will look something like this, assuming that x=0 is when when the magnet is in the center of the coil. Is this an okay assumption?

    How would things change if the magnet had a hollow core: like bellow?

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    Axial symmetry:

    o                 x  
    o                 x               cross section of coil
    o                 x
    o                 x
        _         _
       | |       | |
       |_|       |_|                  cross section of hollow core magnet
     
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  3. Mar 15, 2015 #2

    Svein

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    How would you create a "hollow core" magnet?
     
  4. Mar 15, 2015 #3
    Find a cylindrical piece of iron (or other material that retains a magnetic field), drill a whole through it (like this), and then apply a strong external magnetic field. The magnetic domains in the material should align creating a magnetic annular prism (i.e a hollow core magnet)
     
  5. Mar 15, 2015 #4
    There would be no qualitative difference between the two situations. the actual force if the pole strengths remained the same may vary somewhat due to the different distribution of the magnetic poles and their position in the relatively inhomogeneous field of the solenoid.
     
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